BuffBill Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have noticed quite a few times over the past 5 or 6 games that whenever Stevie thinks me might get hit, he drops the ball, or slides down to avoid the defenders. Not bashing him, but I don't remember him being like this last year. Yesterday the announcers even mentioned that it looked like he gave a half-ars effort. Not saying he never makes good catches, or he sucks or whatever someone who wants to jump on me for saying it, but it appears lately like he is playing scared. Anyone else notice that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 its been touched on a few times - i think having played injured so often (and possibly now) he is trying to protect himself some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He looks more timid than Trent Edwards lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Jerry rice used to duck to avoid hits too. I'm ok with a player saving his body from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have noticed quite a few times over the past 5 or 6 games that whenever Stevie thinks me might get hit, he drops the ball, or slides down to avoid the defenders. Not bashing him, but I don't remember him being like this last year. Yesterday the announcers even mentioned that it looked like he gave a half-ars effort. Not saying he never makes good catches, or he sucks or whatever someone who wants to jump on me for saying it, but it appears lately like he is playing scared. Anyone else notice that? Guy wants to have a long career and protect himself, IMO. Can't blame him. The shelf life for an NFL player is what 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Jerry rice used to duck to avoid hits too. I'm ok with a player saving his body from time to time Not just talking about ducking, I would too, but he lets so many passes go through his hands lately, and it appears he is hearing footsteps whether real or phantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Idc what he does after he catches the football.... Catch it first...no more gator arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Idc what he does after he catches the football.... Catch it first...no more gator arms! Exactly. He has always dropped as many or more passes then any other WR in the league, but this year, yea-Gator Arms is a good description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 My problem with Stevie isn't that he slides down before absorbing a hit....it's that even in the rare times he is streaking down the field open on a bomb, he still gets run down from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He'll start laying out for more passes when he knows it will mean something. Get him on a winning team (and I don't mean the pats , hell at least STL has a lot if upside) and he will fight for catches and yards. Honestly, why risk it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Right now, the team is giving up on Gailey. It shows. Stevie can do that all he wants to save his body. It's Fitz' fault anyway by putting the ball in spots that would get him killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 My problem with Stevie isn't that he slides down before absorbing a hit....it's that even in the rare times he is streaking down the field open on a bomb, he still gets run down from behind. That's because he has to slow down to adjust to the horrible pass thrown by Fitzpatrick. The 34 yard pass they hit on yesterday was supposed to be a fly...SJ made an awesome adjustment just to catch the damn ball! If Fitz had any arm strength that would've been a TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thank god. I was waiting to see if there would be a thread bashing one of our best players. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Love Stevie. Have no criticisms. My problem with Stevie isn't that he slides down before absorbing a hit....it's that even in the rare times he is streaking down the field open on a bomb, he still gets run down from behind. This is silly. The other criticisms are legit because right or wrong, they question his effort or courage but to criticize him for the fact that he's not naturally fast? Or are you saying (without saying) that he's not hustling? If you think he gets caught from behind because he's dogging it, come out and say so. I love Stevie and have no problems with his game. I only wish we had one decent wide receiver to play across from him. Edited December 11, 2012 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Love Stevie. Have no criticisms. This is silly. The other criticisms are legit because they speak to effort or courage but to criticize him for the fact that he's not naturally fast? Or are you saying (without saying) that he's not hustling? If you think he gets caught because he's dogging it, come out and say so. I love Stevie and have no problems with his game. I only wish we had one decent wide receiver to play across from him. If Stevie was like most diva receivers, he would have flipped out a long time ago. He is always open but struggles to get the ball because his QB is so inaccurate. On any other team, he is a top 10 receiver. The Bills are lucky to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yep. We've reached the point in the season where we're criticizing our best players. No player on this roster is above some criticism. But there are probably about 20 players and numerous coaches that I'd criticize first. But back to the original post, I don't see a dropoff in Stevie's game from the previous two years. He looks like the same guy to me. And I agree that his numbers are hurt by mediocre quarterbacking because this guy gets open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 They showed him #1 wr money and he aint any better than a marginal #2. They showed Fitz starter money for backup performance. Mario got huge coin to dominate. He doesn't. So, who's next to take the moneyand relax? A real owner (Bob Kraft) would demand more from them. He'd be asking them to give money back or hit the road. Ralph only demands you show up and pretend to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 They showed him #1 wr money and he aint any better than a marginal #2. They showed Fitz starter money for backup performance. Mario got huge coin to dominate. He doesn't. So, who's next to take the moneyand relax? A real owner (Bob Kraft) would demand more from them. He'd be asking them to give money back or hit the road. Ralph only demands you show up and pretend to play football. Agree 100%. Stevie Johnson and Mario Williams are the real problems with this team. Hopefully, we can unload those 2 scrubs for midround picks in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thank god. I was waiting to see if there would be a thread bashing one of our best players. Good job. Let me get things back on course: Yes, of course Stevie is playing scared...scared that he will spend his whole NFL career without a legit HC or QB to throw him the ball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 They showed him #1 wr money and he aint any better than a marginal #2. They showed Fitz starter money for backup performance. Mario got huge coin to dominate. He doesn't. So, who's next to take the moneyand relax? A real owner (Bob Kraft) would demand more from them. He'd be asking them to give money back or hit the road. Ralph only demands you show up and pretend to play football. This is just ridiculous. First he was the first Bill to have back to back 1000 yard seasons. Now he's on course to have back to back to back 1000 yard seasons. All of this with a limp-armed QB that's missed him on throws at least 15+ times this season. Let me know what #2 WR has ever done that.... But yes lets bash a very good player, one of the best WR's the Bills have had since Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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