1billsfan Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I've watched just about every game for the last 15 years and there is a certain look I'm familiar with at QB. The look of a QB who is in over his head and whose fire is dwindling. Trent had it, JP had it and a few others. Unfortunately I've noticed that Fitzy has that look recently. The guy looks defeated and deflated. Sorry, but you're very wrong. Fitzpatrick is a different breed altogether than both of those jokers. Those two guys were scared to play football in the NFL. They were both deer in headlights. Fitz is a bonafide starting caliber NFL quarterback. Right now at this very moment, he's 9th in TD passes. What you're seeing is a man who wishes his coach hadn't given him 33 passing attempts to Spiller's 14 rushes. Especially when said rusher got 107 yards in those limited number of carries. We all know Fitzpatrick is never going to be elite, and time is definitely running out on him showing he is the QB who will be good enough to get this team a Superbowl win. What Fitzpatrick has to do is close very strong these last five games. If he looks good and has the Bills going on a 4-1 or 5-0 stretch then I think we here may have a whole different outlook on the QB situation. I actually believe the Bills could still make the playoffs given the state of the AFC wildcard and their schedule.
Nuncha Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) I've watched just about every game for the last 15 years and there is a certain look I'm familiar with at QB. The look of a QB who is in over his head and whose fire is dwindling. Trent had it, JP had it and a few others. Unfortunately I've noticed that Fitzy has that look recently. The guy looks defeated and deflated. Yup every QB we've had since Jim Kelly has had that look. Bills fans know it all too well. Sorry, but you're very wrong. Fitzpatrick is a different breed altogether than both of those jokers. Those two guys were scared to play football in the NFL. They were both deer in headlights. Fitz is a bonafide starting caliber NFL quarterback. Right now at this very moment, he's 9th in TD passes. What you're seeing is a man who wishes his coach hadn't given him 33 passing attempts to Spiller's 14 rushes. Especially when said rusher got 107 yards in those limited number of carries. We all know Fitzpatrick is never going to be elite, and time is definitely running out on him showing he is the QB who will be good enough to get this team a Superbowl win. What Fitzpatrick has to do is close very strong these last five games. If he looks good and has the Bills going on a 4-1 or 5-0 stretch then I think we here may have a whole different outlook on the QB situation. I actually believe the Bills could still make the playoffs given the state of the AFC wildcard and their schedule. Fitz is 9th in TD passes - big deal. At the end of the day we are still 4-7, 6-10 last year, 2-14 the year before that. His road and division records as a starting QB are putrid. What matters is WINS in the NFL not the number of TD passes your starting QB throws. He can't throw downfield and he is horribly inaccurate at the basic throws "franchise" QBs can easily make. He is a backup in a "franchise" QB role thus the look of bewilderment. If Fitz is pissed about the playcalling, why doesn't he open his mouth and start bitching about it, rather than having his number 1 target do it for him? The guy has no buring fire and plays with no heart. Remember how Doug Flutie played? His heart and burning desire to prove to everyone he could be a starting QB in the NFL helped him overcome his physical limitations. Fitz just doen't have what it takes to be a "franchise" QB. Edited December 2, 2012 by Azucho98
CSBill Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I think the big problem here is that we have a QB whom is way smarter than his coach. He knows they should be running and running and running some more, and he knows the schemes are bad--for instance, lining up in the shot-gun with no running backs on 3rd and 1, etc.. Is Fitz elite? = NO. Can he win with this team? = Yes, but it hurts when you are the smartest man in the room and yet you have to listen to the cretin coach and his antiquated ways. Stevie J was right, just let him call the plays.
H2o Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I think the big problem here is that we have a QB whom is way smarter than his coach. He knows they should be running and running and running some more, and he knows the schemes are bad--for instance, lining up in the shot-gun with no running backs on 3rd and 1, etc.. Is Fitz elite? = NO. Can he win with this team? = Yes, but it hurts when you are the smartest man in the room and yet you have to listen to the cretin coach and his antiquated ways. Stevie J was right, just let him call the plays. $20 says Fitz could install a better offensive gameplan in weekly prep than can our staff.
HeHateMe Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Sorry, but you're very wrong. Fitzpatrick is a different breed altogether than both of those jokers. Those two guys were scared to play football in the NFL. They were both deer in headlights. Fitz is a bonafide starting caliber NFL quarterback. Right now at this very moment, he's 9th in TD passes. What you're seeing is a man who wishes his coach hadn't given him 33 passing attempts to Spiller's 14 rushes. Especially when said rusher got 107 yards in those limited number of carries. We all know Fitzpatrick is never going to be elite, and time is definitely running out on him showing he is the QB who will be good enough to get this team a Superbowl win. What Fitzpatrick has to do is close very strong these last five games. If he looks good and has the Bills going on a 4-1 or 5-0 stretch then I think we here may have a whole different outlook on the QB situation. I actually believe the Bills could still make the playoffs given the state of the AFC wildcard and their schedule. God no, just no... Fitz is trash....he can't throw past 10 yards yet he still starts. He needs to hit the bench and Gailey needs to be shown the door. That is all.
Stenbar Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I think the big problem here is that we have a QB whom is way smarter than his coach. He knows they should be running and running and running some more, and he knows the schemes are bad--for instance, lining up in the shot-gun with no running backs on 3rd and 1, etc.. Is Fitz elite? = NO. Can he win with this team? = Yes, but it hurts when you are the smartest man in the room and yet you have to listen to the cretin coach and his antiquated ways. Stevie J was right, just let him call the plays. His record proves otherwise... A good qb makes your team into a playoff team. He has made FATAL throws at KEY GAME CHANGING MOMENTS that cost the Bills wins..End of story for me...
nucci Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Yup every QB we've had since Jim Kelly has had that look. Bills fans know it all too well. Fitz is 9th in TD passes - big deal. At the end of the day we are still 4-7, 6-10 last year, 2-14 the year before that. His road and division records as a starting QB are putrid. What matters is WINS in the NFL not the number of TD passes your starting QB throws. He can't throw downfield and he is horribly inaccurate at the basic throws "franchise" QBs can easily make. He is a backup in a "franchise" QB role thus the look of bewilderment. If Fitz is pissed about the playcalling, why doesn't he open his mouth and start bitching about it, rather than having his number 1 target do it for him? The guy has no buring fire and plays with no heart. Remember how Doug Flutie played? His heart and burning desire to prove to everyone he could be a starting QB in the NFL helped him overcome his physical limitations. Fitz just doen't have what it takes to be a "franchise" QB. His record? So the games he threw 3-4 TD passes and scored over 30 points and lost are his fault? I know he's not great and I would like a new QB but don't put all the blame on him. 3-4 years running we have the worst D in the league.
1billsfan Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 God no, just no... Fitz is trash....he can't throw past 10 yards yet he still starts. He needs to hit the bench and Gailey needs to be shown the door. That is all. Just stating the facts that Trent and JP were not NFL material and Fitzpatrick is NFL material. I really don't see how you got a ringing endorsement of Fitzpatrick from what I said. The Bills will beat the Jaguars and probably get on a roll from there. I think Fitzpatrick and the Bills can go on a five game winning streak and make the playoffs for the first time in forever. That doesn't mean that I think they will do it. Fitzpatrick MUST do something extraordinary like that to sell the team and the fans that the Bills don't have to draft a QB in round 1. That's not a ringing endorsement, just laying out what the deal is for him.
RealityCheck Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Defenses are lining up daring Fitz to throw the deep ball because he can't. It doesn't matter how wide open anybody is downfield he still misses. If we had a QB that could make the deep throws defenses would be playing us completely different, and running the ball more would be a better option. Fitz for all his alleged intelligence makes poor decisions and audibles out of running plays more often then not. Fitz is a choke collar around the offenses neck.
Nuncha Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) His record? So the games he threw 3-4 TD passes and scored over 30 points and lost are his fault? I know he's not great and I would like a new QB but don't put all the blame on him. 3-4 years running we have the worst D in the league. Franchise QBs find ways to win....You don't watch much football other than the Bills do you? You are right, or D stinks too. However, having a great D won't help Fitz make good decisions, throw downfield, make him more accurate, and play with heart.......... Edited December 2, 2012 by Azucho98
H2o Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Franchise QBs find ways to win....You don't watch much football other than the Bills do you? Eli Manning is the perfect example. He's had some rather mediocre stretches at times, but the guy is clutch and does it on the biggest of stages.
bigK14094 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Fitz had the long ball to some degree last year, and has not hit any this year.....the new coach definitely screwed him up. Will it be back next year, I don't know. I think Fitz stays unless..........Nix trades for Alex Smith....would be a heavy price....I would not criticize such a move however. Fitz would , then, be cut loose, 'cause backups don't get paid 10mil per season. (Actually save money, since Smith is making 8-9 Mil per season)
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 I don't feel,sorry for anyone. I earnestly believe he could fix his accuracy issues, and deep ball with the right time and effort. He has a decent arm and the smarts. Of course have no idea how he spends his off season. If he lives with a QB coach all off season working on fixating mechanics like Brady was with his QB coach, then I am wrong and it is hopeless.
3rdand12 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Eli Manning is the perfect example. He's had some rather mediocre stretches at times, but the guy is clutch and does it on the biggest of stages. again, he also has a heck of a defense to rely on. But he does make those piss you off plays in the 4th quarter doesnt he.
Bills!Win! Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 (edited) It happened with Johnson, Van Pelt, Bledsoe, Losman, Holcombe, Edwards, and Even Fitzpatrick - there's a signature play in each season where we are already at wits end with these players, hoping for them to give us one ounce of hope.... AAAAND.. Then comes that 5 yard dump off pass or the throw that misses the wide open receiver for a TD, and we realize "This QB has all but lost it, he's done." Then comes 4th down and you see our QB hanging his head walking to the sideline. Edited December 2, 2012 by Bills!Win!
tombstone56 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 holy cow ! you must be Houdini!, wow" I can see it in his eyes", maybe your right,,,, it takes one to know one, LOSER!
1B4IDie Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 Just stating the facts that Trent and JP were not NFL material and Fitzpatrick is NFL material. I really don't see how you got a ringing endorsement of Fitzpatrick from what I said. The Bills will beat the Jaguars and probably get on a roll from there. I think Fitzpatrick and the Bills can go on a five game winning streak and make the playoffs for the first time in forever. That doesn't mean that I think they will do it. Fitzpatrick MUST do something extraordinary like that to sell the team and the fans that the Bills don't have to draft a QB in round 1. That's not a ringing endorsement, just laying out what the deal is for him. If you stick Fitzpatrick's brain in JP Lossman's body you might have a winner. Fitzpatrick is not physically capable of throwing the ball downfield. This season has proven that to be an irrefutable fact.
jethro_tull Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 i feel badly for fitzpatrick too- not because of the playcalling, which has maximized his medoicre abilities over the years, but because he is a mid level backup forced to start for a team with a weak defense and a rabid, starving fan base in a division that has eaten them for lunch for the most part. if we had a top 15 quarterback starting for this team they would have easily won an additional (4) games and be in the playoffs this season. havng watched every game fitz has played for the past (3) seasons, there is absolutely zero doubt that he is one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. his capabilities as a quarterback rank no. 1 at the top of the list of reasons why the Bills have won (4) and lost (7) games this season.
filthymcnasty08 Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 If you stick Fitzpatrick's brain in JP Lossman's body you might have a winner. Fitzpatrick is not physically capable of throwing the ball downfield. This season has proven that to be an irrefutable fact. While we're building Franken-QB, install Flutie's heart!
peterpan Posted December 2, 2012 Posted December 2, 2012 The guy takes every loss to heart every week, especially because our offense coordinator literally kills him with the play calls. Put Fitz on the 49ers this year and they have the exact same record, with maybe one more loss. I stopped reading here because it is freaking hilarious that you believe that.
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