Idiots Guide and Conversation around 2013 QB Draft Class

[Virgil]

nice list but it's incomplete. You left off NC State's Mike Glennon who will probably move into the 1st round ala Ryan Tannehill.

 

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[Maury Ballstein]

Thanks this is topical for the Bills and helpful for someone like me that doesnt get to watch much college. The one name not on your list that Im interested in from the write-ups is Landry Jones. The consensus is that he has an incredibly strong arm and can make all the throws, but he needs to make better decisions under pressure. He also has the ideal size at 6'4"230. I dont want a guy with physical limitations, the other stuff is coachable. But you cant coach "strong arm", "make all the throws" and "6'4" 230".

 

Throw he makes @ 1:05 is big time and extends plays/wins games in the NFL:

 

 

Lookin like a major improvement over fitz.....lot of nice throws on this video from Landry Jones.

[zow2]

I took a few minutes to pull the college career stats for the top QB prospects. Just the facts. I threw in Joe Flacco's career at Delaware just as a comparison. Let me know if you want to see any more listed.

 

 

Player GP Comp Att Comp% Yds TD INT TD% INT% Y/G Sacks

G. Smith 42 946 1413 66.9% 11,054 93 20 6.6% 1.4% 263.2 75

Barkley 47 1001 1562 64.1% 12,327 116 48 7.4% 3.1% 262.3 55

Tyler Wilson 37 593 948 62.6% 7,765 52 26 5.5% 2.7% 209.9 46

A. Murray 39 660 1065 62.0% 9,399 89 29 8.4% 2.7% 241.0 77

Glennon 35 611 1016 60.1% 7,028 62 28 6.1% 2.8% 200.8 66

Flacco 29 596 942 63.3% 7057 41 15 4.4% 1.6% 243.3 N/A

[Virgil]

Lookin like a major improvement over fitz.....lot of nice throws on this video from Landry Jones.

 

I'm sorry, but I just don't see it. His throws don't have a lot of zip on them. In fact, they have that Trent Edwards velocity. Yes, he does make a deep throw, but it looks pushed not thrown. I feel like NFL DB's will be able to make jumps on his throws. And if he hasn't established himself as THE guy yet, then I also believe he has peaked. Look at how bad Geno and Matt have played recently and you still don't hear people talking about Landry overtaking them.

 

Again, just my opinion

[Drop Kick Flutie]

I took a few minutes to pull the college career stats for the top QB prospects. Just the facts. I threw in Joe Flacco's career at Delaware just as a comparison. Let me know if you want to see any more listed.

 

 

Player GP Comp Att Comp% Yds TD INT TD% INT% Y/G Sacks

G. Smith 42 946 1413 66.9% 11,054 93 20 6.6% 1.4% 263.2 75

Barkley 47 1001 1562 64.1% 12,327 116 48 7.4% 3.1% 262.3 55

Tyler Wilson 37 593 948 62.6% 7,765 52 26 5.5% 2.7% 209.9 46

A. Murray 39 660 1065 62.0% 9,399 89 29 8.4% 2.7% 241.0 77

Glennon 35 611 1016 60.1% 7,028 62 28 6.1% 2.8% 200.8 66

Flacco 29 596 942 63.3% 7057 41 15 4.4% 1.6% 243.3 N/A

Delaware is an FCS program, Flacco sucks and couldn't beat out Tyler Palko for the starting job at Pitt.

[Virgil]

Just read a report by McShay saying that he hears from NFL scouts that Barkley is going to fall to the second round and Klein might be a late first round pick.

 

I'm sorry, but I think he is smoking crack. I'm not looking for either of these guys in a Bills uniform next year, but Barkley will go and go early. This is too much of a QB lead.

 

Again, I could see as many as 5 first round QB's taken this year, but my money is on 4.

[drnykterstein]

Mike Glennon is the guy I hope the BB's draft. I doubt they will grab him though, the BB's never really tend to do anything smart.

[Astrobot]

Glennon fans will be disappointed that we have him at #136 on our Big Board, which would be right around our RD5 pick. Combine could help Graham some, but not first-rounder good. He's not elusive like Nix wants, often telegraphs his throws, but with coaching could get better. I liked his chemistry with TJ Graham last year, and I like his quick setup and quick release. Watch him here in 2011 (his top WR is TJ Graham, #6):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEn_9QvOCfI&feature=youtu.be

Edited December 9, 2012 by Astrobot

[NoSaint]

Just read a report by McShay saying that he hears from NFL scouts that Barkley is going to fall to the second round and Klein might be a late first round pick.

 

I'm sorry, but I think he is smoking crack. I'm not looking for either of these guys in a Bills uniform next year, but Barkley will go and go early. This is too much of a QB lead.

 

Again, I could see as many as 5 first round QB's taken this year, but my money is on 4.

 

Barkley might slide a bit but I think he's polished enough that someone takes him early. Klein I can't imagine in round 1. At all. May as well sign tebow if that's the plan for someone.

 

Glennon fans will be disappointed that we have him at #136 on our Big Board, which would be right around our RD5 pick. Combine could help Graham some, but not first-rounder good. He's not elusive like Nix wants, often telegraphs his throws, but with coaching could get better. I liked his chemistry with TJ Graham last year, and I like his quick setup and quick release. Watch him here in 2011 (his top WR is TJ Graham, #6):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEn_9QvOCfI&feature=youtu.be

 

No offense astro, but guys shoot all over your boards.

 

Glennon may not go all the way up but if he has a good offseason he'd be on the short list of guys that may emerge at the top of that second grouping. Again, assuming a good offseason and depending on who declares - He's not going top ten but could easily end up high 2 (which, ask ponder, could mean mid 1 if someone falls in love).

[NoSaint]

Klein update: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/09/collin-klein-not-expected-to-get-a-senior-bowl-invitation/

[TakeYouToTasker]

Nassib is actually the guy I believe may have the highest ceiling comming out this year. He's got a lightning quick release, a powerful arm, good field vision, and can make and extend plays with his feet. Things he needs to work on, and must improve for him to be sucessful: he double clutches on his downfield throws, he has "happy feet" in the pocket, he has a funky delivery, he looks totally uncomfortable and out of place making touch passes.

 

I'd love to see us spend a third on him, with the plan of handing him the reigns in 2 years.

[Maury Ballstein]

read somewhere earlier "barkley's weak arm in the buffalo weather would be bad news"

 

not my take but limited arm sounds a little suspect.