vegas55 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 A very good defensive effort against Colts, and a poor offensive effort by Bills, leads to heavy criticism of Chan, while Wanny slides under the radar. But not so fast. A number of poor defensive calls lead to Colts picking up first downs on third and long situations. But the absolute worst, and the reason why Wanny just does not get it and why he must go, was Colts last possession. Less than 2 minutes, Colts have 3rd and 10, Bills have no timeouts. A first down by Colts ends the game. So what is Wannys defensive call? Well you can see for yourself if you have NFL rewind, but here it is - he has his safeties lined up 20 + yards off the line of scrimmage. He is still trying to prevent the long pass when a 10 yard pass ends the game. And that's why Gilmore is left in single coverage on the Colts # 1 receiver, and why the Colts pick up the game ending first down on a 10 yard pass. Because our genius DC conceded it. A long pass or a 10 yard pass both end this game. It's a little harder to complete a long pass ( see Ryan F.) but good old Wanny is going to take that long pass away by playing his safeties back and losing the game. Kind of like a baseball game; tie score, bottom of 9th, less than two outs, runner at third. You bring the outfielders in to play shallow, because a long fly ball ends the game whether its caught or not. Wanny plays his outfielders deep.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I didn't go back to watch the game (cannot stomach that), but I believe you on your analysis, and it's not surprising. Wanny has proven to be a great recruiter (at both college and now pro level), but a suspect tactician. Kinda a shame that he was promoted, because his role last year as a "consultant" was perfect for him. He could probably put in his two cents during the week, and leave the gameday calls to others.
FLFan Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 A very good defensive effort against Colts, and a poor offensive effort by Bills, leads to heavy criticism of Chan, while Wanny slides under the radar. But not so fast. A number of poor defensive calls lead to Colts picking up first downs on third and long situations. But the absolute worst, and the reason why Wanny just does not get it and why he must go, was Colts last possession. Less than 2 minutes, Colts have 3rd and 10, Bills have no timeouts. A first down by Colts ends the game. So what is Wannys defensive call? Well you can see for yourself if you have NFL rewind, but here it is - he has his safeties lined up 20 + yards off the line of scrimmage. He is still trying to prevent the long pass when a 10 yard pass ends the game. And that's why Gilmore is left in single coverage on the Colts # 1 receiver, and why the Colts pick up the game ending first down on a 10 yard pass. Because our genius DC conceded it. A long pass or a 10 yard pass both end this game. It's a little harder to complete a long pass ( see Ryan F.) but good old Wanny is going to take that long pass away by playing his safeties back and losing the game. Kind of like a baseball game; tie score, bottom of 9th, less than two outs, runner at third. You bring the outfielders in to play shallow, because a long fly ball ends the game whether its caught or not. Wanny plays his outfielders deep. Very good point.
CodeMonkey Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) I didn't notice on TV that the safeties were that far back. Employing the classic prevent (the win) defense. Edited November 26, 2012 by CodeMonkey
Coach Tuesday Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I didn't notice on TV that the safeties were that far back. Employing the classic prevent (the win) defense. But worse - because the prevent is usually deployed when you're AHEAD.
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 But worse - because the prevent is usually deployed when you're AHEAD. That's why Wany is here, he is an innovator...LOL....
jcbillsfan Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 The d is getting better every week. Last I checked one td per week.
MRM33064 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 A very good defensive effort against Colts, and a poor offensive effort by Bills, leads to heavy criticism of Chan, while Wanny slides under the radar. But not so fast. A number of poor defensive calls lead to Colts picking up first downs on third and long situations. But the absolute worst, and the reason why Wanny just does not get it and why he must go, was Colts last possession. Less than 2 minutes, Colts have 3rd and 10, Bills have no timeouts. A first down by Colts ends the game. So what is Wannys defensive call? Well you can see for yourself if you have NFL rewind, but here it is - he has his safeties lined up 20 + yards off the line of scrimmage. He is still trying to prevent the long pass when a 10 yard pass ends the game. And that's why Gilmore is left in single coverage on the Colts # 1 receiver, and why the Colts pick up the game ending first down on a 10 yard pass. Because our genius DC conceded it. A long pass or a 10 yard pass both end this game. It's a little harder to complete a long pass ( see Ryan F.) but good old Wanny is going to take that long pass away by playing his safeties back and losing the game. Kind of like a baseball game; tie score, bottom of 9th, less than two outs, runner at third. You bring the outfielders in to play shallow, because a long fly ball ends the game whether its caught or not. Wanny plays his outfielders deep. Well said. Visions of the old Dallas MNF disaster, where a similar logic applied (and was, of course, also blown by the Bills). Of course, you'll go nowhere with logic and tactics, unless you can some how say it with a sleepy Southern drawl. You know, the kind that sounds all football-y.
FreakPop Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) A very good defensive effort against Colts, and a poor offensive effort by Bills, leads to heavy criticism of Chan, while Wanny slides under the radar. But not so fast. A number of poor defensive calls lead to Colts picking up first downs on third and long situations. But the absolute worst, and the reason why Wanny just does not get it and why he must go, was Colts last possession. Less than 2 minutes, Colts have 3rd and 10, Bills have no timeouts. A first down by Colts ends the game. So what is Wannys defensive call? Well you can see for yourself if you have NFL rewind, but here it is - he has his safeties lined up 20 + yards off the line of scrimmage. He is still trying to prevent the long pass when a 10 yard pass ends the game. And that's why Gilmore is left in single coverage on the Colts # 1 receiver, and why the Colts pick up the game ending first down on a 10 yard pass. Because our genius DC conceded it. A long pass or a 10 yard pass both end this game. It's a little harder to complete a long pass ( see Ryan F.) but good old Wanny is going to take that long pass away by playing his safeties back and losing the game. Kind of like a baseball game; tie score, bottom of 9th, less than two outs, runner at third. You bring the outfielders in to play shallow, because a long fly ball ends the game whether its caught or not. Wanny plays his outfielders deep. Hey hey, stop making valid points and perfect sense about the defense. Didn't you get the memo, every loss is ALL R Fitzpatrick fault, no matter how bad the rest of the team plays or how bad the coaching is it is all Fitz fault. You are just supposed to agree with all the armchair QBs around here, and not bring logic and facts into the argument. I can't believe you don't know that. Edited November 26, 2012 by FreakPop
Hater Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 We haven't had a fire Chan or Wanny in a week, but how about this, Fire The Whole Coaching Staff, Cut Shitzpatrick & Show Buddy Boy The Door I like that better
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 We haven't had a fire Chan or Wanny in a week, but how about this, Fire The Whole Coaching Staff, Cut Shitzpatrick & Show Buddy Boy The Door I like that better I understand your feelings, but I'd hate to see Metzelaars go
Hater Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 I understand your feelings, but I'd hate to see Metzelaars go Metzelaars could Interview for the new coaching staff.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 Watching the game yesterday and seeing the cameras pan to Wanny or Chan was like watching two old guy reading the sunday paper and babysitting the grandkids playing in the back yard!
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 Normally I am of the same mind ...... The Colts Offense scored 13 points. This was one of the better D performances and WannaClue must go is a the topic?
BuffaloWings Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 I see vegas55's point, but it's not the main reason they lost the game. Sounds like a little nitpicking here. What was more glaring was Chan's play-calling in the second half and the missed opportunities by the offense.
Chicago_Mike Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 We wouldn't be having this convo if Spiller would have seen 25 touches or if Moorman was still punting. D played well enough to win vs. Indy.
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