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...there is truly a feeling of hopelessness. Fitz has been exposed. He's a great guy, a great leader, plays with toughness, and has all of the tools upstairs -- with an inaccurate rag of an arm to match. Two easy TDs missed yesterday, and a bunch more passes batted down.

 

Gailey, who sucked me in with his speeches about "a tough game for tough people," has proven to be a cowardly and error prone decision maker. Chan has had a very bad month of coaching, capped off yesterday with one of the most pathetic coaching efforts I've ever seen. Not allowing your kicker to try a 52-yard FG in a dome with the score 7-3? 37 passes to 21 runs when your star RB is getting 7 yards a pop? That time management mess at the end of the first half?

 

And yet, despite all of that, and despite a handful of questionable calls that all seemed to go the Colts' way, this team was a play or two from winning.

 

It's embarrassing, once again, to be a Bills fan. I can't even enjoy Mario's resurgence because there's just no hope.

 

I've got two tickets to the remaining three home games that will sit in my desk drawer, unused. I'm not eager to put them up for sale in the hopes I'll get a $10 offer.

 

Schitt.

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Im "done with this team" for the season, but I dont feel as bad as I have previously.

 

We need a real QB, first and foremost. That alone will drastically change what happens on the field, and also will affect Chan's play-calling. If our QB was capable of hitting Jones and Spiller on those wide open deep plays, we win that game.

 

There are a few other holes to fill (OLB for example), but this team has more talent now than it has for over a decade. And especially where it counts the most (Dline and Oline).

 

It's too bad they couldn't get it to click this year, but Fitz's physical limitations have been too much to overcome.

 

It definitely sucks to be a Bills fan right now (again), and it's really unfortunate that Ralph insists on a situation which makes it impossible to hire coaches of top quality, but at least the FO has the talent level headed in the right direction...

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Wish I could come with a 'hang in there, E' tale of hope to ease the sickness, but I'm stricken with it myself and even more cowbell won't cure it. It is a pathetic organization that's likely to provide a final kick in the teeth when new ownership is announced.

 

I want hypnosis therapy for Xmas just so I can dump them before they completely bail on us.

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I ask this in all seriousness: How's your physical health? Do you have kids? Are you married? Parents alive? Do you have a decent job or at least one that pays the bills?

 

I have written and redrafted this same type of post that you wrote five times this season and then delete it because I have to look at my life as being made up of things other than Bills football. I love my wife and my three kids. I have good health. My job is a pain in the ass but I am my own boss and it pays the bills that I have. My folks are alive and I have some good friends.....you guys on this board are included in that group of friends because we all suffer the same ailment. I told myself after the Patriots debacle this season that I would not take this team as seriously as I have in the past because it can't be healthy.

 

So, I understand your frustration and I feel the same way, but I'm trying to avoid feeling this way because I have alot of other things in life to appreciate. Stay strong brother. If you need to take a month breather from games, do so.

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I ask this in all seriousness: How's your physical health? Do you have kids? Are you married? Parents alive? Do you have a decent job or at least one that pays the bills?

 

I have written and redrafted this same type of post that you wrote five times this season and then delete it because I have to look at my life as being made up of things other than Bills football. I love my wife and my three kids. I have good health. My job is a pain in the ass but I am my own boss and it pays the bills that I have. My folks are alive and I have some good friends.....you guys on this board are included in that group of friends because we all suffer the same ailment. I told myself after the Patriots debacle this season that I would not take this team as seriously as I have in the past because it can't be healthy.

 

So, I understand your frustration and I feel the same way, but I'm trying to avoid feeling this way because I have alot of other things in life to appreciate. Stay strong brother. If you need to take a month breather from games, do so.

 

I feel the pain E..BTW just sent you a PM as well.

 

In terms of the above post, i know the spirit of the message is good, and i do not want to come as being mean or coldhearted...but damn I am at the same place as E. My wife and I were discussing it last night..as for some reason I take these losses harder now than I ever have...and it has to do with the town and the threat of leaving. If you told me bills are in Buffalo for next 40 years, I can live with the losing. However, I fear the losing leads to other non desirerable outcomes.I think that is why i take them harder now...feel like every year might be the last for the team especially if have 40,000 at the last games

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I ask this in all seriousness: How's your physical health? Do you have kids? Are you married? Parents alive? Do you have a decent job or at least one that pays the bills?

 

I have written and redrafted this same type of post that you wrote five times this season and then delete it because I have to look at my life as being made up of things other than Bills football. I love my wife and my three kids. I have good health. My job is a pain in the ass but I am my own boss and it pays the bills that I have. My folks are alive and I have some good friends.....you guys on this board are included in that group of friends because we all suffer the same ailment. I told myself after the Patriots debacle this season that I would not take this team as seriously as I have in the past because it can't be healthy.

 

So, I understand your frustration and I feel the same way, but I'm trying to avoid feeling this way because I have alot of other things in life to appreciate. Stay strong brother. If you need to take a month breather from games, do so.

well said.. i am there.. find myself becoming turned off to the NFL in general and i have been watching forever. the combination of the agony of being a bills fan with what the NFL has become just no longer is working for me.
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...there is truly a feeling of hopelessness. Fitz has been exposed. He's a great guy, a great leader, plays with toughness, and has all of the tools upstairs -- with an inaccurate rag of an arm to match. Two easy TDs missed yesterday, and a bunch more passes batted down.

 

Gailey, who sucked me in with his speeches about "a tough game for tough people," has proven to be a cowardly and error prone decision maker. Chan has had a very bad month of coaching, capped off yesterday with one of the most pathetic coaching efforts I've ever seen. Not allowing your kicker to try a 52-yard FG in a dome with the score 7-3? 37 passes to 21 runs when your star RB is getting 7 yards a pop? That time management mess at the end of the first half?

 

And yet, despite all of that, and despite a handful of questionable calls that all seemed to go the Colts' way, this team was a play or two from winning.

 

It's embarrassing, once again, to be a Bills fan. I can't even enjoy Mario's resurgence because there's just no hope.

 

I've got two tickets to the remaining three home games that will sit in my desk drawer, unused. I'm not eager to put them up for sale in the hopes I'll get a $10 offer.

 

Schitt.

 

:thumbsup: for your thoughts i feel the exact same thing. :thumbdown: for this Gailey/Fitz combo just a bad bad experiment.

 

with a few draft picks in certain places QB/LB, I don't feel we are beyond a quick fix though. That could be the same dumb talk ive had for 10 plus years now though. who knows

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I feel the pain E..BTW just sent you a PM as well.

 

In terms of the above post, i know the spirit of the message is good, and i do not want to come as being mean or coldhearted...but damn I am at the same place as E. My wife and I were discussing it last night..as for some reason I take these losses harder now than I ever have...and it has to do with the town and the threat of leaving. If you told me bills are in Buffalo for next 40 years, I can live with the losing. However, I fear the losing leads to other non desirerable outcomes.I think that is why i take them harder now...feel like every year might be the last for the team especially if have 40,000 at the last games

 

I understand that...but if I was still living in Buffalo and had a wife that I could eat dinner with, kids that I could hang out with, good health (manageable health), a job, friends, etc. I'd consider myself lucky....it takes some getting used to, but there are more important things in life (like a cold beer with good friends, wings and pizza, a nice plate of spaghetti parm at Chef's, Christmas morning, Easter, catching a nice trout in a local stream...cold beer, wings...wait did I already say that?)

 

If they leave, they leave. If they stay, awesome. But at our funerals they may say we were great Bills fans, but that will be the end of it. It's ok to be a great Bills fan, but I won't let it consume my family to the point where I am miserable to my wife, kids or friends.

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Don't let the door hit you on your way out you bandwagoner!

 

Just kidding. I feel the same way. The Bills are a 50-lb iron weight that my dad chained to my ankle when I was born - "Here you go, carry this around with you for the rest of your life, like I do." My kid will likely start watching and caring about football in 2-4 years. That means that I have 2-4 years to decide whether I'm going to chain that same weight to him, or, perhaps, free him from this insanity.

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I feel the pain E..BTW just sent you a PM as well.

 

In terms of the above post, i know the spirit of the message is good, and i do not want to come as being mean or coldhearted...but damn I am at the same place as E. My wife and I were discussing it last night..as for some reason I take these losses harder now than I ever have...and it has to do with the town and the threat of leaving. If you told me bills are in Buffalo for next 40 years, I can live with the losing. However, I fear the losing leads to other non desirerable outcomes.I think that is why i take them harder now...feel like every year might be the last for the team especially if have 40,000 at the last games

 

Mrs. 81 & I had the same discussion. Yesterday hurt worse because it crushed fading hopes of playoffs -losing to another AFC team who was the League doormat a year ago. I'm resigned today that it's another in a very long string of dashed hopes and bitter seasons. I don't really have another favorite team so the Bills will be on but i know ill be indifferent to the same plays that had me opening cursing yesterday as the outcomes are moot.

 

Feellin' all your pain, guys and gurls.

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Don't let the door hit you on your way out you bandwagoner!

 

Just kidding. I feel the same way. The Bills are a 50-lb iron weight that my dad chained to my ankle when I was born - "Here you go, carry this around with you for the rest of your life, like I do." My kid will likely start watching and caring about football in 2-4 years. That means that I have 2-4 years to decide whether I'm going to chain that same weight to him, or, perhaps, free him from this insanity.

 

There is no decision to be made. It's like the Scarlet Letter. Your kid has already been branded. He will see your Bills posters, Bills beer mugs, Bills tickets framed on the wall, your Joe Cribbs trading card and your Whammy and then ask what they are...the rest is history.

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I'm most disheartened by the fact that Chan has 2 more years on his contract which will make it all the harder for him to be replaced - the Bills hate eating contracts they never should have created in the first place. I would not be totally stunned to see Chan next year - I'd be pissed, but not surprised.

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It is very disheartening to be a Bills fan. The sad thing is that I almost never expect them to win anymore. I always expect them to lose and when they do it is never a surprise. Yesterday was no exception. Very hard to root for a team that you hope will win every week, but you know in your heart that there is very little chance of that happening. I truly don't know what the answer is, but it has got to start with a new HC.

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I ask this in all seriousness: How's your physical health? Do you have kids? Are you married? Parents alive? Do you have a decent job or at least one that pays the bills?

 

I have written and redrafted this same type of post that you wrote five times this season and then delete it because I have to look at my life as being made up of things other than Bills football. I love my wife and my three kids. I have good health. My job is a pain in the ass but I am my own boss and it pays the bills that I have. My folks are alive and I have some good friends.....you guys on this board are included in that group of friends because we all suffer the same ailment. I told myself after the Patriots debacle this season that I would not take this team as seriously as I have in the past because it can't be healthy.

 

So, I understand your frustration and I feel the same way, but I'm trying to avoid feeling this way because I have alot of other things in life to appreciate. Stay strong brother. If you need to take a month breather from games, do so.

 

good decision I've been watching this team for 50 years and came to the same conclusion after the 4th superbowl loss. Enjoy what you can but don't take it to serious

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...there is truly a feeling of hopelessness. Fitz has been exposed. He's a great guy, a great leader, plays with toughness, and has all of the tools upstairs -- with an inaccurate rag of an arm to match. Two easy TDs missed yesterday, and a bunch more passes batted down.

 

Gailey, who sucked me in with his speeches about "a tough game for tough people," has proven to be a cowardly and error prone decision maker. Chan has had a very bad month of coaching, capped off yesterday with one of the most pathetic coaching efforts I've ever seen. Not allowing your kicker to try a 52-yard FG in a dome with the score 7-3? 37 passes to 21 runs when your star RB is getting 7 yards a pop? That time management mess at the end of the first half?

 

And yet, despite all of that, and despite a handful of questionable calls that all seemed to go the Colts' way, this team was a play or two from winning.

 

It's embarrassing, once again, to be a Bills fan. I can't even enjoy Mario's resurgence because there's just no hope.

 

I've got two tickets to the remaining three home games that will sit in my desk drawer, unused. I'm not eager to put them up for sale in the hopes I'll get a $10 offer.

 

Schitt.

 

I understand your frustration. You are certainly not alone in your sentiment. First and foremost you have to put a balance on how you respond to this year's version of the Bills' generation of futility. It is only a game and a sport. It is simply entertainment. If it is getting to the point that it makes you unhappy then take a break.

 

If you have read the majority of my postings you will recognize that I am an owner and organizational basher. But that doesn't mean that I don't see some hope. What this franchise desperately needs is a legitimate franchise qb. That in itself will rectify or at least overcome a lot of other weak spots on the roster. Although this season is another bust the positive news is that this stupid organization finally recognises that they have to come out of the next draft and offseason with a major upgrade at qb. Are they way past the curve? Absolutely. But belatedly addressing a problem is better than not doing so.

 

If not attending the games makes you more happy than attending then you certainly deserve the break. My suggestion for what you can do with your tickets if you choose to not attend is to donate them to some military support group or some charitable group that will put the tickets in the hands of people who would be very appreciative of your generosity.

 

Next Sunday I will not be watching the Bills game. I will be having lunch with some friends. That is how I will cope with watching this very bedraggled franchise.

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:thumbsup: for your thoughts i feel the exact same thing. :thumbdown: for this Gailey/Fitz combo just a bad bad experiment.

 

with a few draft picks in certain places QB/LB, I don't feel we are beyond a quick fix though. That could be the same dumb talk ive had for 10 plus years now though. who knows

 

Gailey and Fitz tried hard and failed. The Lesson learned is never try... :doh:

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I actually think that the roster is much much better now than it was then its just the coaching is just as terrible. The defense has talent and potential esp on the D-line and in the secondary (Which coming off the Jauron years had almost no talent in the front 7). The O-line is a standout unit far better than what it was under Jauron. The RB situation is still good if not better than what it was under Jauron, the WR's have Stevie and a decent support group of 3 and 4 WR's. Even Chandler at TE is better than what we had at the end of Jauron.

 

It comes down to finding a QB and a coach and fixing a couple of holes on the roster. After Jauron it was an almost complete rebuild outside of the secondary there wasn't a unit on the team that you could say was good. I like to think that the team has much more talent on it that isn't being fulfilled due to the poor coaching.

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I defended Jauron a lot but we have a much more talented roster than when he was here. We have a bunch of blue chippers (Wood, Levitre, Glenn, Spiller, Stevie, Bryd, Gilmore, the Williamses, Dareus). I think it is becoming clear than Jauron might actually be a better head coach than Gailey. I think Gailey runs a good offense but needs to be checked. But his record is terrible and that's inexcusable. This is our most talented team in 10 years and is 4-7 in a bad AFC. Unless we get to 8-8 or better, you have to make a change. 3 years is enough time to see improvement.

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