gjv001 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Our QB has to be one of the top three most inaccurate QB's in the NFL. I don't envision Fitzpatrick being on next years team. There is no way the Bills can sell playoff hopes for next years team with Fitzpatrick's erratic passing.
tito1 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 He's so smart though, I mean he graduated from Harvard. Must be color blind though, keeps throwing to the wrong colored uniforms
Mr. WEO Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Our QB has to be one of the top three most inaccurate QB's in the NFL. I don't envision Fitzpatrick being on next years team. There is no way the Bills can sell playoff hopes for next years team with Fitzpatrick's erratic passing. Well, Luck is in the bottom 4....but Fitz's completion percentage is right in th middle of all starters, ahead of E Manning, Stafford, Cutler, Flacco, Freeman,...... He has fewer ints than Romo, Rivers and Ryan. He has the same number of ints as E Manning and Culter, but more TDs than either of them. Edited November 26, 2012 by Mr. WEO
CSBill Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) I don't have the facts, but I have a strong feeling his accuracy on passed over ten yards is less than 50% ... the screens and short slants and crossing patterns that Chan loves, keep his numbers up, but hitting guys downfield--like the three wide-open ones he missed yesterday--not his thing. And FILTHYMCNASTY08:"Vick + Tarvaris + 2 rookies from the draft and one more prospect (UFA or cheap pick up) Thats realistically what I would like to see at training camp next summer." You obviously have not watched any Eagles games this year, you think Fitz is inconsistent? Edited November 26, 2012 by CSBill
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I'm not making ANY excuses for the "goat-ee". Fitz plays well then he CHOKES. Putting aside accuracy for a moment - What about all of the drops yesterday? I recall at least 3 that would have given the Bills a 1st down. What of Chan not throwing the flag on the fumble at the 2 yard line late in the game? What of ANOTHER kick return for a TD? This was A team loss.
Maury Ballstein Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Well, Luck is in the bottom 4....but Fitz's completion percentage is right in th middle of all starters, ahead of E Manning, Stafford, Cutler, Flacco, Freeman,...... He has fewer ints than Romo, Rivers and Ryan. He has the same number of ints as E Manning and Culter, but more TDs than either of them. What are you saying WEO ? 4 more years of fitz ! He's terrible puuuuurrriod. Told y'all this a season and a half ago. Rag arm w no accuracy to be qb1 ? Brilliant ! Gailey and Fitz hit the road jack, enough of this
peterpan Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Well, Luck is in the bottom 4....but Fitz's completion percentage is right in th middle of all starters, ahead of E Manning, Stafford, Cutler, Flacco, Freeman,...... He has fewer ints than Romo, Rivers and Ryan. He has the same number of ints as E Manning and Culter, but more TDs than either of them. If stats told the whole story then Fitz would be great and the Bills would be cruising into the playoffs. But they don't and Fitz still sucks and so do the Bills. I couldn't name 5 starting QBs in the NFL worse than Fitz, and I could name 5 backups I would rather have right now over Fitz. I am 100% serious when I say there are at least 32 QBs in the league right now I would rather have, whether bc they are simply better or because they are young and have potential. Edited November 26, 2012 by peterpan
AKA Bigdog Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I like Fitz. I think everyone on this board would like to have a beer with the guy. He tries hard, he cares, he probably doesn't kick his dog. That said if I have to watch him stand in the pocket, set his feet, and overthrow another wide open WR ready to take it to the house I'm getting a fitz voodoo doll and throwing it into traffic.
bobobonators Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 this team has so many issues i don't know where to begin: 1. it all starts with chan - he relies on the passing game way too much. 2. we don't have a true #1 WR/premier WR. SJ's catch yesterday should've been taken to the house being that he had 3 steps on the DB. Our WR had like 3 drops yesterday to boot. 3. our LB's are piss-poor. 4. Fitz is too inconsistent...he'll hit 8 or 9 in a row and then he'll go 2 - 12. 5. Our O-line can't pass protect for longer than 2.5 seconds. 6. Our O-line has no balls and can never convert a 3rd and short. We're soft. 7. We have a kicker who apparently can't even attempt a 50yd FG in a !@#$ING DOME??
Webster Guy Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 our heavy use of screen passes inflate his completion percentage and passing yards. I'm not saying all screen passes are easy throws, but Fitz's downfield accuracy is brutal and everyone knows it including him. he missed a wide open Spiller and Donald Jones for long TD's yesterday and cost us the game on a day when our defense gave us the chance to save the season. on top of that he's not even seeing he field well, so LB's and safeties are getting picks just standing in their spot and waiting like our last 2 games with NE and the pick to the Indy LB. Inaccuracy plus poor vision = nightmare.
bigdogtim Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Fitz seems like the kind of guy you would want your daughter to marry. Although that makes him extremely likeable as a man, it doesn't do enough to make him a top NFL QB. Up until now, I have rooted for Fitz to suceed and still do. However, it is now clear to me, that despite how much I might hope Fitz can be the guy for the Bills, it just is not going to happen.
voodoo poonani Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I don't know what his percentage is, but he was 1 for 3 on deep passes yesterday. I would wager his completion percentage is inflated with all the dink and dunk/screens. That isn't Eli in the locker room, but boy how I wish it was...
Mr. WEO Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 What are you saying WEO ? 4 more years of fitz ! He's terrible puuuuurrriod. Told y'all this a season and a half ago. Rag arm w no accuracy to be qb1 ? Brilliant ! Gailey and Fitz hit the road jack, enough of this No, not 4 more years of Fitz. Not at all. Just pointing out the inaccuracy of the OP's thread. A year and a half or so ago, we were 5-2. I don't recall many saying we had to get rid of Fitz back then. If stats told the whole story then Fitz would be great and the Bills would be cruising into the playoffs. But they don't and Fitz still sucks and so do the Bills. I couldn't name 5 starting QBs in the NFL worse than Fitz, and I could name 5 backups I would rather have right now over Fitz. I am 100% serious when I say there are at least 32 QBs in the league right now I would rather have, whether bc they are simply better or because they are young and have potential. Here, let me help you: Matt Cassel Blaine Gabbert Brandon Weeden Mark Sanchez Skelton/Kolb and I'll throw in Vick because he is truly awful.
VirginiaMike Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I'm done with Fitzpatrick. I supported him at the start of the year, but his performance this year has demonstrated he is a lower tier QB and would be good to keep only as a back-up. I am hoping that somehow Geno Smith can find his way into a Bills uniform next year.
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 No, not 4 more years of Fitz. Not at all. Just pointing out the inaccuracy of the OP's thread. A year and a half or so ago, we were 5-2. I don't recall many saying we had to get rid of Fitz back then. Here, let me help you: Matt Cassel Blaine Gabbert Brandon Weeden Mark Sanchez Skelton/Kolb and I'll throw in Vick because he is truly awful. Everything has to be the worst/ best ever right this second. Is Fitz that accurate? No. But holy hyperbole. He isn't even the least accurate Bills QB in the last 5 years, Losman.
Hazed and Amuzed Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I'm not making ANY excuses for the "goat-ee". Fitz plays well then he CHOKES. Putting aside accuracy for a moment - What about all of the drops yesterday? I recall at least 3 that would have given the Bills a 1st down. What of Chan not throwing the flag on the fumble at the 2 yard line late in the game? What of ANOTHER kick return for a TD? This was A team loss. I thought the same thing but wasn't it under 2:00 min left? I think under 2 Min the replays are handled by the booth and out of the coaches hands.
Ronin Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Just musing back, ... remember when Fitzpatrick's ribs were the excuse? So what happened, who was wrong? ... or lying?
papazoid Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 he must have another undisclosed injury.....
thewildrabbit Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Let's face some facts, Chan Gailey is a loser and he doesn't know how to win at the top college or NFL level. Granted he went to bowl games in his 6 years while at GT, he never once beat the teams biggest rival in the Georgia Bulldogs. Buffalo Bills record under Gailey is an abysmal, 14-28 .333%. Gailey doesn't know the difference between a decent DC, and a horrifically inept one. He should have hired a proper OC to call plays and direct him instead of trying to run the entire offense himself Ryan Fitzpatrick has always played on bad teams, and STILL doesn't have a decent enough supporting cast or a play caller willing to setup an offense to help him win.He has one main option in the passing game in 7th round WR Stevie Johnson. I love SJ but he is currently ranked #26 in yards this year. The Bills passing offense regressed this season with a new QB coach screwing with Fitz's technique and mechanics. Gailey still refuses to get the most out of his best players and limits the touches he gives Spiller and Fred Jackson, when he openly stated he should give the pair 40 touches a game and then gives them half of that amount. I can only wonder how good that Bills offense would have become had the Bills spent all those draft picks on offensive players instead of all the defensive players they drafted the last 3 years. I have to think that the Bills defense has been so bad the last 3 years they set franchise and NFL records for being bad despite all those draft picks. I doubt they could be any worse then they currently are. The QB is usually only as good as his supporting cast, coaches, players scheme, game plan. Fitz isn't the only thing that sucks on this team.
Maury Ballstein Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 No, not 4 more years of Fitz. Not at all. Just pointing out the inaccuracy of the OP's thread. A year and a half or so ago, we were 5-2. I don't recall many saying we had to get rid of Fitz back then. Here, let me help you: Matt Cassel Blaine Gabbert Brandon Weeden Mark Sanchez Skelton/Kolb and I'll throw in Vick because he is truly awful. Disagree on Weeden, but the other 4 are spot on IMO. Weeden's got some upside, he might end up as a good QB (even though his social security will kick in before his career ends)
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