Ramius Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Spiller did not have a carry in the final 13:33 of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Sure, he's not a cure-all. But is there anyone on team that you'd rather have with the ball in their hands? It depends on the situation... 4th and 1 I don't want Spiller carrying the ball. 3rd and 10 in a 3 WR set I'd rather have FJ back there picking up the blitz. There are lots of situations in which Spiller is absolutely the best guy to give the ball to - but that doesn't mean it's all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Sure, he's not a cure-all. But is there anyone on team that you'd rather have with the ball in their hands? No, I agree he's under-utilized. But the amount of moaning and wailing is way out of proportion to the reality, imo. It takes a brilliant offensive mind to take a 7.6 ypc runner, and lose. 7.6 ypc is historic proportions, folks. What kind of offensive mind does it take to create an historic 7.6 ypc runner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I guess I was just pointing out that the guy is not some sort of panacea that cures everything. There's dozens of people on this board repeatedly screeching about his touches, as if all we have to do is get him the ball and things will magically be great; but that's just not how it works. If everybody isn't doing their jobs, you can give him the ball as much as you want but still end up with 4 touches for 0 yards. I can't speak for everybody else but I am probably one of those people who you are referring to. I personally have not been screaming for him to be getting more touches....I have been screaming for him to be getting more carries. I doubt there is anybody who is thinking that things will magically be great.....but I'm sure there are dozens who are thinking that things will not only be better if CJ gets more carries, but will be a great deal more exciting to watch. As it happens.....in this particular game....when CJ was given the opportunity to run the ball, things did start looking a lot better. (13:10) 28-C.Spiller up the middle to IND 43 for 11 yards (50-J.Freeman; 41-A.Bethea). 1-10-IND 43 (12:29) (Shotgun) 28-C.Spiller left end pushed ob at IND 30 for 13 yards (50-J.Freeman). 1-10-IND 30 (11:57) (Shotgun) 28-C.Spiller up the middle to IND 27 for 3 yards (20-D.Butler; 95-F.Moala). 2-7-IND 27 (11:10) (Run formation) 22-F.Jackson up the middle to IND 30 for -3 yards (50-J.Freeman). 3-10-IND 30 (10:23) (Shotgun) 14-R.Fitzpatrick sacked at IND 34 for -4 yards (98-R.Mathis). 1-10-BUF 22 (1:06) (Run formation) 28-C.Spiller up the middle pushed ob at IND 37 for 41 yards (41-A.Bethea). 1-10-IND 37 (:37) (Run formation) 28-C.Spiller up the middle to IND 31 for 6 yards (53-K.Conner). 2-4-IND 31 (15:00) (Shotgun) 28-C.Spiller left end pushed ob at IND 29 for 2 yards (58-M.Fokou). 3-2-IND 29 (14:15) (Run formation) 14-R.Fitzpatrick pass short left to 13-St.Johnson to IND 15 for 14 yards (28-T.Zbikowski). 1-10-IND 15 (13:33) (Run formation) 28-C.Spiller right end to IND 13 for 2 yards (50-J.Freeman). BUF-38-C.McIntyre was injured during the play. He is Out. 2-8-IND 13 (13:02) (Shotgun) 14-R.Fitzpatrick pass short middle to 19-D.Jones to IND 1 for 12 yards (28-T.Zbikowski). 1-1-IND 1 (12:17) (Run formation) 71-S.Young and 95-K.Williams reported in as eligible. 22-F.Jackson up the middle to IND 1 for no gain (95-F.Moala; 53-K.Conner). 2-1-IND 1 (11:37) (Run formation) 71-S.Young and 95-K.Williams reported in as eligible. 14-R.Fitzpatrick pass short middle to 85-L.Smith for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. There were two other drives where CJ was given the opportunity to run which didn't go anywhere. His getting more carries won't be a magic bullet for the team.....but it is obvious that it will be better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Sure, he's not a cure-all. But is there anyone on team that you'd rather have with the ball in their hands? Yea, he is only averaging 7.4 YPC.... keep him on the bench in the 4th and limit his touches to 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Yea, he is only averaging 7.4 YPC.... keep him on the bench in the 4th and limit his touches to 15 dont you see.. chan is keeping his carries short so he can pass more with Fitz It all part of Chan's master plan ...not using his best players is the new way of winning in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 If it's any consolation, he had 3 carries in the 3rd quarter. 2 on the last 2 plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 dont you see.. chan is keeping his carries short so he can pass more with Fitz It all part of Chan's master plan ...not using his best players is the new way of winning in the NFL. But we're losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 What kind of offensive mind does it take to create an historic 7.6 ypc runner? The answer is, not applicable. Spiller gets most of his yards on vision, balance and acceleration. Just watch FJ in comparison. BTW, to illustrate my point...in his heyday, when did FJ average 7.6? Right, he never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 My guess is he's kept out of the game in crunch time because the team is going to be passing and FJ picks up the blitz much better than Spiller. which leads to the obvious question: why are you passing at crunch time when your running back is averaging 7 yards per carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 But we're losing. just think if chan used CJ in the 4th. Maybe we win more often?? We 2-0 when he carries the ball more than 20 times in a game this yr. Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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