KollegeStudnet Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I give Dareus a pass this year! He was drafted as a 3-4 DE, but plays a 4-3 DT now...his brother gets murdered and Dave is his DC--that's a lot of change from his rookie year
Captain Hindsight Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 JJ Watt would have been considered a colossal reach at the time. We would have burned Buddy at the stake
Jim in Anchorage Posted November 24, 2012 Author Posted November 24, 2012 One thing I would like to add here. Vince Wilfork could be on the Bills roster now instead of Lee Evans hanging out at hammers lot. So lets not be afraid to criticize the front office.
artmalibu Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Just another big drafting mistake, like Whitner. That's why we never play in January. Thats just stupid!!! MD was a top 3 prospect and EVERYONES board!!
Hater Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Thats just stupid!!! MD was a top 3 prospect and EVERYONES board!! I Agree, Nobody had Marcell Dareus lower than 3rd
jumbalaya Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 In foresight, no one had watt over md. Really the only debate was green or maybe Peterson as BPA. Also note, it's a different scheme being run by us vs Houston. Maybe we should run their scheme. Ours sucks.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Look at what the Texans do with Watt. They are moving him around constantly changing looks. Wanny just says line up and run forward. Honestly Marcell will be a great player for the Bills for years to come. I firmly believe that. The problem has been Wanny stubbornness to realize the league has changed. He is grudgingly giving in and mixing it up. If he continues to do that we will see Marcell in the back field more and more.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I know this has been covered but I thought I would freshen it up. Do you at this time feel it was wise for the Bills to pick Marcell Dareus over JJ? I watched the HOU-DET game and JJ was in the QBs face or batting down balls all game. You should make this poll. Anyway it's not even close Watt was great last year and this year he is Defensive MVP, Watt by a mile.
K-9 Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I think the key words in the OP's post are "at this time" and yes, at this time, Watt would have been the better draft pick. That much is obvious based on their play to date. Nobody in their right mind would have taken Watt over Dareus on draft day. That much is also obvious. And "at this time" has nothing to do with the future. Perhaps at that time, we'll be saying Dareus is the better pick. GO BILLS!!!
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 JJ Watt is playing better right now..... and I would still take Marcel Darius.....who I still believe will end up being a dominant player
3rdand12 Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 One thing I would like to add here. Vince Wilfork could be on the Bills roster now instead of Lee Evans hanging out at hammers lot. So lets not be afraid to criticize the front office. lets see. First its not a fair comparison. They are different typed players. And to critique a player you need an equation or something to truly know why success or less has occurred. ok enough of that poo. They needed a Defensive tackle for the 3-4 4-3 . Marcel could play NT in the 3-4 and DE too. he showed his last college season that he could bring pressure from any where on the line. and he had speed, side to sideline. He had great play recognition. Most of us got on board after watching him play. So he has struggled as the whole team has. Houston is complete team almost. We are not. yet. Dareus is our man and will pull his jock up and get it together. He is right next to Kyle and KW will not let MD fail. Lets keep cheering the kid on. JJ Watt is playing better right now..... and I would still take Marcel Darius.....who I still believe will end up being a dominant player exactly
bills1960 Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 True Dareus will probably never be the player JJ is but you can do this kind of thing in retrospect in thousands of situations.
MattM Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Anyone else here think JJ might have a PED suspension in his future? Something about his crazed look and tree trunk-sized arms (plus playing with Cushing, who according to some, has been juicing since high school) just gives me that impression....
thebandit27 Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 As I said at the time, the Dareus pick was a great choice, and--that said--I would've been 100% satisfied with Watt. Anyone that watched him play in college should've seen how disruptive Watt would be in the NFL; he was dominant as Wisconsin. Again, I'm not writing off the possibility that Dareus could end up the better player, but I maintain anyone saying Watt would've been a reach at No. 3 probably didn't watch him play in college.
Heitz Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 We should have taken Brady in the fifth round. lol - I like that you're not reaching with a higher pick. Also, TBD would have melted down if the Bills took JJ Watt at 3...
peteski Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 I wanted AJ Green!!! Happy with Dareus but he hasn't played well this year but there is still potential.
NoSaint Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 As I said at the time, the Dareus pick was a great choice, and--that said--I would've been 100% satisfied with Watt. Anyone that watched him play in college should've seen how disruptive Watt would be in the NFL; he was dominant as Wisconsin. Again, I'm not writing off the possibility that Dareus could end up the better player, but I maintain anyone saying Watt would've been a reach at No. 3 probably didn't watch him play in college. Many here thought he'd be a commodity at the next level but 3 absolutely would've been a shock. He was fighting to be in the top 3 or 4 guys to fit in a defensive front 7 off the board (not 3rd player overall) with miller the best edge rusher, dareus the head and shoulders number 1 big body, with watt, aldon smith, fairley and Robert Quinn being that next cluster depending on scheme and need and even cam Jordan possibly moving up into that group. Watt playing well is no surprise. Watt playing DMVP type ball is, and watt coming off the board before dareus would've been been unbelievable.
Garion Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 Maybe we should run their scheme. Ours sucks. We did last time we were a playoff team!
Rob's House Posted November 25, 2012 Posted November 25, 2012 I remember some faint chatter about JJ Watt being the best 3-4 DE in the draft, but the overwhelming consensus was that Dareus was the man. This, however, is a great example of why fear of "reaching" & needing to lose to get better are flawed philosophies.
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