Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 You're such a gullible dumb !@#$. What did I say that would lead you to that conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 What would the charges be? How's about his abject, willful failure to abide by federal law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 How's about his abject, willful failure to abide by federal law? I'm pretty sure you would have to be a little more specific than that for articles of impeachment, even for a Republican House vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'm pretty sure you would have to be a little more specific than that for articles of impeachment, even for a Republican House vote Yes, but if you don't know of any specific examples, you haven't been paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Yes, but if you don't know of any specific examples, you haven't been paying attention. Neither have the House Republicans, why are they not acting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Neither have the House Republicans, why are they not acting? And lose their campaign issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 And lose their campaign issues? Which are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Which are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure you would have to be a little more specific than that for articles of impeachment, even for a Republican House vote Republicans don't need articles of anything. They have what they need: one of the single most hated pieces of legislation in years. Impeaching Obama is a waste of time when all you have to do is leave him alone and watch him suck progressives into a schitthole of incompetent worthlessness. But hey...seven milllion point one, ammiright??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Which are? Republicans don't need articles of anything. They have what they need: one of the single most hated pieces of legislation in years. Impeaching Obama is a waste of time when all you have to do is leave him alone and watch him suck progressives into a schitthole of incompetent worthlessness. But hey...seven milllion point one, ammiright??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 No, seriously, what would he be impeached for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 No, seriously, what would he be impeached for? How's about his abject, willful failure to abide by federal law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 can't you take up a hobby or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 can't you take up a hobby or something? It appears he already has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 It appears he already has one. aren't you supposed to be good at your hobbies? I used to think it was a hobby of his but now see it as more of a compulsion and preoccupation with streaks of obsession and chaos to engage in dissent It is, to say the least, unhealthy behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) He lied to cover his ass during a Presidential campagn to make sure he was re-elected. And of course you're cool with that. Again, according to Morell's testimony, as well as the numerous other congressional investigations into this incident, it is not clear that Obama lied about anything. The intelligence on the ground was muddled at best, conflicting reports as to the cause of the attack contributed to the confusion. The event was still called an act of terrorism the day after it happened, and even the most ardent conservative on here has agreed that Obama nor Hillary could have prevented the attack from happening because there is no such thing as 100% when it comes to intelligence work. So to recap: Obama might have lied (even though there is no evidence that he did), he might have misconstrued the cause for the benefit of his reelection (again, no evidence other than hearsay and conspiracy), but whatever actions were taken in the hours after the attack did not have bearing on how those events unfolded. How does this relate to Bush and Iraq? It's actually really easy to put two and two together if you're willing to look beyond your partisan blinders. Either Bush lied about WMD or he had misleading intelligence. Same thing with Benghazi -- only Bush's (potential) lie forced multiple countries into a ten year campaign that cost over 200,000 lives and counting. Obama's (potential) lie was about which bad guys attacked us and why in order to save face. It's really not that complicated. Edited April 16, 2014 by GreggyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 aren't you supposed to be good at your hobbies? I used to think it was a hobby of his but now see it as more of a compulsion and preoccupation with streaks of obsession and chaos to engage in dissent It is, to say the least, unhealthy behavior. it's just his way of getting laughs by posting nonsense and drawing amusement from the subsequent incredulity. the more we respond, the more he enjoys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Again, according to Morell's testimony, as well as the numerous other congressional investigations into this incident, it is not clear that Obama lied about anything. The intelligence on the ground was muddled at best, conflicting reports as to the cause of the attack contributed to the confusion. The event was still called an act of terrorism the day after it happened, and even the most ardent conservative on here has agreed that Obama nor Hillary could have prevented the attack from happening because there is no such thing as 100% when it comes to intelligence work. So to recap: Obama might have lied (even though there is no evidence that he did), he might have misconstrued the cause for the benefit of his reelection (again, no evidence other than hearsay and conspiracy), but whatever actions were taken in the hours after the attack did not have bearing on how those events unfolded. How does this relate to Bush and Iraq? It's actually really easy to put two and two together if you're willing to look beyond your partisan blinders. Either Bush lied about WMD or he had misleading intelligence. Same thing with Benghazi -- only Bush's (potential) lie forced multiple countries into a ten year campaign that cost over 200,000 lives and counting. Obama's (potential) lie was about which bad guys attacked us and why in order to save face. It's really not that complicated. Gregg, his administration explicitly blamed the events on a YouTube video, and stated that the events were "spontanious". The statements made were definative. Bush, for as many flaws as he had, did not lie about Iraq. He made a exhaustive, and quite public, search for information. He then used the information gathered from the best intelligence in the world, and made a case, before Congress, that war was the best course of action, given this intelligence, which he provided to those he was asking to go to war, which later proved flawed. The two are entirely dissimilar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Gregg, his administration explicitly blamed the events on a YouTube video, and stated that the events were "spontanious". The statements made were definative. A narrative that's been backed up and reinforced by congressional testimony, not diminished. Personally, I think they were playing politics, but you can't prove it any more than I can prove Bush lied about the reasons we went to war in the desert. Which is my point. Intelligence is never clear cut. It wasn't in the lead up to Iraq 2, and it wasn't in the aftermath of Benghazi. Yet, certain people are trying to hold one administration up to a different standard than the previous one -- why? Because one's their guy and the other isn't. Republicans who hold Obama over the barrel for this while simultaneously dismissing the correlation to the events in 2003 are not interested in having a real debate. They're interested in scoring points for their party. And that bores me because it's not only unoriginal, it's dishonest. The two are entirely dissimilar. Yes, one action was launching a war. The other was a response to a terrorist attack. In terms of the scale of the offense, the war in Iraq has cost us far more in terms of blood, treasure and our nation's moral equity. But opposing sides of these issues (libs with Iraq, conservatives with Benghazi) are attacking the target administration with the same charges: that a president knows with certainty exactly what is happening within every element of the intelligence community 100% of the time. Both attacks are simple and short sighted. Worse, both play politics with the loss of human life rather than actually try to investigate the situation. Edited April 16, 2014 by GreggyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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