Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) Sure, because the war was based on a huge serious of lies leading us into an expensive fiasco in lives and treasure while Obama's lies, if there even were any, were expost facto and had no influence on the events. You don't see that though, right? You've just explained the difference. My question is what do they have to do with each other? Edited April 15, 2014 by Chef Jim
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 You've just explained the difference. My question is what do they have to do with each other? one was a great big foreign policy f up and one was a much smaller foreign policy f up
Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 one was a great big foreign policy f up and one was a much smaller foreign policy f up Once again your telling us the difference. What do they have to do with each other has been my question? Why did you feel the need to bring up the Bush administration in a thread about the Obama administration?
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Once again your telling us the difference. What do they have to do with each other has been my question? Why did you feel the need to bring up the Bush administration in a thread about the Obama administration? To show the hypocracy and how fake the "scandel" was. What exactly are you saying Obama did wrong?
3rdnlng Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 one was a great big foreign policy f up and one was a much smaller foreign policy f up So, you are agreeing that Obama f'd up?
Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 To show the hypocracy and how fake the "scandel" was. What exactly are you saying Obama did wrong? Where's the hypocrisy? Once again the two events have nothing to do with one another. That would only work if any of us said "nothing to see here" regarding Iraq and Afghanistan. You're such a !@#$ing tool. So lying to cover your ass during a Presidential campaign is fake? He lied to cover his ass during a Presidential campagn to make sure he was re-elected. And of course you're cool with that.
OCinBuffalo Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 And he thought it was only going to be a little BJ, now people are losing their doctors and the President is murdering ambassadors...tangled web Did the "You can keep your doctor/plan. Period" lie destroy the Democratic health care agenda of the last 60 years? We don't know...yet...but, we shall. Without the Bill Clinton lie, is it even remotely possible that anyone in that political strategy meeting they had, where the specific wording about the Obamacare lie was discussed, at length, would have suggested it, never mind advocated for having the POTUS come out and tell a bald-faced lie? This was: calculation. They calculated that they would get away with it, and the risk to the election, of actually telling the truth was higher, because telling the truth required more "nuance". Buddy: they made that calculation based on the Clinton Big Lie. As I've said: you've deluded yourselves into believing you can get away with any lie, because Bill got away with his. But, you can't. Obama certainly can't. And now? There's nothing but consequences left to face.
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Where's the hypocrisy? Once again the two events have nothing to do with one another. That would only work if any of us said "nothing to see here" regarding Iraq and Afghanistan. You're such a !@#$ing tool. So lying to cover your ass during a Presidential campaign is fake? He lied to cover his ass during a Presidential campagn to make sure he was re-elected. And of course you're cool with that. You are now claiming that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of Torture Inc. should be held accountable for the lies that got us into Iraq?? Oh please. That's hypocrisy. So you are admitting that Bush lied us into a war?
Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 You are now claiming that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of Torture Inc. should be held accountable for the lies that got us into Iraq?? Oh please. That's hypocrisy. So you are admitting that Bush lied us into a war? Nope. Just trying to follow your thought processes here. Which is now perfectly clear. Thanks for the clarification.
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Nope. Just trying to follow your thought processes here. Which is now perfectly clear. Thanks for the clarification. So you defend Bush's actions which were obviously lies and led to a friggin war, but Obama...what did Obama lie about? Hypocrite!
3rdnlng Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) http://www.counterpu...said-what-when/ Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-CT, September 4, 2002 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. Dick Cheney August 26, 2002 If we wait for the danger to become clear, it could be too late. Sen. Joseph Biden D-Del., September 4, 2002 Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons. George W. Bush September 12, 2002 If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world. Ari Fleischer December 2, 2002 We know for a fact that there are weapons there. Ari Fleischer January 9, 2003 Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. George W. Bush January 28, 2003 We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more. Colin Powell February 5, 2003 Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, February 5, 2003 Edited April 15, 2014 by 3rdnlng
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 http://www.counterpu...said-what-when/ Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-CT, September 4, 2002 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. Dick Cheney August 26, 2002 If we wait for the danger to become clear, it could be too late. Sen. Joseph Biden D-Del., September 4, 2002 Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons. George W. Bush September 12, 2002 If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world. Ari Fleischer December 2, 2002 We know for a fact that there are weapons there. Ari Fleischer January 9, 2003 Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. George W. Bush January 28, 2003 We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more. Colin Powell February 5, 2003 Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, February 5, 2003 So its ok Bush lied, because others repeated the lie.
Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 So you defend Bush's actions which were obviously lies and led to a friggin war, but Obama...what did Obama lie about? Hypocrite! My work is done here. Thanks.
DC Tom Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Bush didn't just lie, he got 19 intelligence organizations in the US alone - never mind the foreign ones - to believe all his lies. The guy's an evil genius. Smartest president we've ever had, to pull off a maskirovka like that.
3rdnlng Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 So its ok Bush lied, because others repeated the lie. It was the consensus of the intelligence world from many countries that Iraq had WMD's. Saddam even claimed he had them. They either got moved to Syria, destroyed or buried. For you to keep up with this "Bush lied" crap is a lie in and of itself. You know Bush didn't lie but are continuing to claim he did.
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Bush didn't just lie, he got 19 intelligence organizations in the US alone - never mind the foreign ones - to believe all his lies. The guy's an evil genius. Smartest president we've ever had, to pull off a maskirovka like that. ALL his lies?? Is that right Tom? It was the consensus of the intelligence world from many countries that Iraq had WMD's. Saddam even claimed he had them. They either got moved to Syria, destroyed or buried. For you to keep up with this "Bush lied" crap is a lie in and of itself. You know Bush didn't lie but are continuing to claim he did. Lol, its all crap that Bush lied. Obama needs to be impeached though, right?
3rdnlng Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 ALL his lies?? Is that right Tom? Lol, its all crap that Bush lied. Obama needs to be impeached though, right? Obama should and could rightfully be impeached for failing to live up to his oath of office. The only issue I have with that is that !@#$ing impeachment insurance named Joe Biden.
Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Lol, its all crap that Bush lied. Obama needs to be impeached though, right? Yup
Tiberius Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) Obama should and could rightfully be impeached for failing to live up to his oath of office. The only issue I have with that is that !@#$ing impeachment insurance named Joe Biden. What would the charges be? Yup Doesn't surprise me at all...except that you didn't ask a question Edited April 15, 2014 by gatorman
Chef Jim Posted April 15, 2014 Posted April 15, 2014 Doesn't surprise me at all...except that you didn't ask a question You're such a gullible dumb !@#$.
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