whateverdude Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Budget, debt, jobs, Iran, tax reform??? NO banning guns!! http://www.reuters.c...E8A627J20121107 What a complete waste of an egg and sperm this guy is. Edited November 8, 2012 by whateverdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 It passed with 157 votes in favor, none against and 18 abstentions. and U.N. diplomats said the vote had been expected before Tuesday's U.S. presidential election but was delayed due to Superstorm Sandy, which caused a three-day closure of the United Nations last week. and U.S. officials have acknowledged privately that the treaty under discussion would have no effect on domestic gun sales and ownership You probably should have actually read the article you're in such a hurry to bash. "Banning guns?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whateverdude Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) and [/color][/size][/font] and [/color][/size][/font] You probably should have actually read the article you're in such a hurry to bash. "Banning guns?" No, you failed to grasp the big picture here. No effect on "Domestic guns"..".United States - the world's biggest arms trader accounting for more than 40 percent of global conventional arms transfers" Imports to the US and exports from the US would be banned also Edited November 8, 2012 by whateverdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) You probably should have actually read the article you're in such a hurry to bash. "Banning guns?" You're right. This... or any... administration should be taken for its words, rather that its deeds. Any mention of whether Operation Fast and Furious would constitute illegal weapons trade? Thousands of AK-47s paid for with tax dollars, delivered directly into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, who've used them in multiple murders, including a U.S. Border Patrol agent. Oh... wait. Let's just forget that happened, that the regional directors of it were actually promoted to D.C. ATF, and that Obama used executive privilege so no one can find out the depths of this thing. Will the U.N. have an executive privilege thingy? Edited November 8, 2012 by UConn James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Wait...so I still have a little more time to practice religious freedom? When, exactly, is the 1,000 years of darkness supposed to start? I am going to the UT game this Saturday...think I should bring a flashlight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Send me a damm check. How come this got moved? Edited November 8, 2012 by mead107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I like grilled cheese sandwiches. Fire the pope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whateverdude Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) couple of things I came away with after reading the actually treaty as it stands now: 1) one of the stated goals is to promote cooperation, transparency and responsibility of states (countries) participating in the treaty. 2) Countries will be legally responsible for the damage and loss of life cause by their trade of conventional weapons (responsibility clause ) 3) Countries will enact a national registry (cradle to grave record keeping) of not only conventional arms but their parts, components and munitions without exception domestic and exports. They want to make sure domestic arms are regulated, recorded and information there of shared with and by the treaty member countries to avoid their potential export (transparency and cooperation clauses ) 4) A state run national control and handing system of all conventional arms, parts,components and munitions (cooperation clause). 5) Any amendment to this treaty shall be adopted by consensus, or if consensus is not achieved, by two-thirds of the States Parties present and voting at the Conference of States Parties (in other words, a later amendment, decided by other countries, would appear to be binding on us, even if we don't vote in favor. Call me cynical, but this seems like a great way to give someone like Obama political cover.) 6)This Treaty shall be of unlimited duration. A State shall not be discharged, by reason of its withdrawal, from the obligations arising from this Treaty while it was a party to the Treaty, including any financial obligations, which may have accrued. This treaty is for life like herpes. Edited November 9, 2012 by whateverdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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