keepthefaith Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Apparently the baker's union feels its' members will easily find work elsewhere at similar wages so there was no incentive for them to renegotiate. Jobs are plentiful out there. No way would they stand on principle and stupidity, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 http://washingtonexa...medium=referral The Teamsters, which represented a third of Hostess's workforce, had a different take. In a scathing press release last week, they sided with the Hostess management, saying the liquidation was "not an empty threat or a negotiating tactic, but the certain outcome" of the bakers' strike. This was, they added, "based on conversations with our financial experts, who, because the Teamsters were involved in the legal process, had access to financial information about the company." It further alleged that the bakers union chose "not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process," ignored warnings from the bankruptcy judge and did not fully inform its members of how dire the situation was before they voted to strike. that's fairly condemning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Hey, they'll get 99 weeks of unemployment benefits. Yay everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 that's fairly condemning. If you haven't done so, read the whole article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 If you haven't done so, read the whole article. I have.....and it's bad. "But companies can survive bankruptcy if given an opportunity to reorder their practices. That's hard to do when you're juggling 372 collective bargaining agreements." "Forbes noted earlier this year that those union contracts required numerous superfluous jobs and redundant expenses that made Hostess too inefficient. For example, bread and snack cakes, even if they were heading to the same destination, had to go in separate trucks." "A deal that included a 25 percent ownership stake in the company, a seat on the board of directors and $100 million in reorganized debt was offered to the company's unions. The International Brotherhood of Teamsters agreed to the deal, which included concessions for its members. But the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco and Grain Millers International Union, which represents 30 percent of the Hostess workforce, refused to make any concessions and instead announced a strike last Thursday." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Another American success story to be filed with Studebaker, Pontiac, and Eastman Kodak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Apparently the baker's union feels its' members will easily find work elsewhere at similar wages so there was no incentive for them to renegotiate. Jobs are plentiful out there. No way would they stand on principle and stupidity, right? Unions don't give a sh-- about thier members, they give a sh-- about maintaining their ability to rob the next company blind. That's the dirty little secret the left wing doesn't want you to recognize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 More Big Labor-induced misery: The looming port strike I’ve been reporting since September on the potentially catastrophic port strike in the works, and have been tracking the Occupy-supported and manufactured chaos at our ports for the past year. .............Things are about to come to a head. On the West Coast: The Port of Portland (Oregon) is bracing for a strike by longshore workers on Nov. 25 “that would tie up millions of dollars worth of freight at three terminals.” Representatives of the Port and the International Longshore and Warehouse Union say the strike could still be averted. But Port officials believe cargo ships may begin bypassing Portland because of the uncertainty created by the failure of last-ditch contract talks Friday. Separately, owners of Northwest terminals handling a quarter of the nation’s grain exports said Friday they’d presented a final offer to the longshore union. Failure of those talks could lead to a strike or lockout at six grain terminals in Portland, Vancouver and the Puget Sound. In Oakland, Calif., a strike is planned next Monday and Tuesday. SEIU is leading the way: Port of Oakland workers who say they have gone 16 months without a new contract plan to go on strike Monday and Tuesday in Oakland. The Service Employees International Union Local 1021 has announced plans for a 24-hour strike starting at 9 p.m. Monday. On the East Coast and Gulf Coast, companies are re-routing their shipments in anticipation of a long-threatened walkout. Negotiators had been silent for the past few months, but the ILA is now flexing its muscle publicly: Harold Daggett, president of the International Longshoremen’s Association, has broken weeks of silence during contract negotiations to complain that employers “want to grab more money away from the ILA and its members by placing a cap on container royalty.” The union also said its negotiators “would not budge” on their opposition to eliminating the 8-hour guarantee and overtime provisions during negotiations in September with U.S. Maritime Alliance (USMX)… As I explained two months ago, an estimated 14,500 union workers at 14 ports are prepared to tip the economy back into recession over productivity and efficiency rules changes. ILA’s main beef is with container royalty caps to target port corruption As always, these strikes aren’t about protecting and improving workers’ lives. They are about protecting entrenched Big Labor power. http://michellemalkin.com/2012/11/19/more-big-labor-induced-misery-the-looming-port-strike/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) B-MAN, even if you don't like unions or union workers how can you justify this, Board of Directors Brian Driscoll, CEO, around $750,000 to $2,550,000 Gary Wandschneider, EVP, $500,000 to $900,000 John Stewart, EVP, $400,000 to $700,000 David Loeser, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256 Kent Magill, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256 Richard Seban, EVP, $375,000 to $656,256 John Akeson, SVP, $300,000 to $480,000 Steven Birgfeld, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000 Martha Ross, SVP, $240,000 to $360,000 Rob Kissick, SVP, $182,000 to $273,008 Why weren't these exec's adapting to evolving customer tastes, public perceptions, and health standards which was clearly hurting this company? The workers took cuts and management got increases. They tried to make the workers pay the price for management's incompetence. BCTGM union bosses salaries Officers and Employees■Average Total Compensation: $94,797.07 ■Total Employees: 58 ■Employees Making more than $75,000: 31 Top Ten Highest Paid Leaders Name Title Total Compensation FRANK HURT PRESIDENT $262,654.00 DAVID DURKEE SECRETARY-TREASURER $244,396.00 JOSEPH THIBODEAU EXEC VICE PRESIDENT $218,989.00 STEVE BERTELLI VICE PRESIDENT $198,062.00 MICHAEL KONESKO VICE PRESIDENT $184,297.00 ARTHUR MONTMINY VICE PRESIDENT $175,505.00 ANTHONY JOHNSON VICE PRESIDENT $167,433.00 ROBERT OAKLEY VICE PRESIDENT $167,265.00 RANDY ROARK VICE PRESIDENT $166,849.00 SEAN KELLY VICE PRESIDENT $161,789.00 Maybe they should have cut their salaries? http://able2know.org/topic/202031-1 I blame Rahm http://michellemalkin.com/2012/11/15/emanuel-vending-machine/ Edited November 19, 2012 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 BCTGM union bosses salaries Officers and Employees■Average Total Compensation: $94,797.07 ■Total Employees: 58 ■Employees Making more than $75,000: 31 Top Ten Highest Paid Leaders Name Title Total Compensation FRANK HURT PRESIDENT $262,654.00 DAVID DURKEE SECRETARY-TREASURER $244,396.00 JOSEPH THIBODEAU EXEC VICE PRESIDENT $218,989.00 STEVE BERTELLI VICE PRESIDENT $198,062.00 MICHAEL KONESKO VICE PRESIDENT $184,297.00 ARTHUR MONTMINY VICE PRESIDENT $175,505.00 ANTHONY JOHNSON VICE PRESIDENT $167,433.00 ROBERT OAKLEY VICE PRESIDENT $167,265.00 RANDY ROARK VICE PRESIDENT $166,849.00 SEAN KELLY VICE PRESIDENT $161,789.00 Maybe they should have cut their salaries? http://able2know.org/topic/202031-1 I blame Rahm http://michellemalki...ending-machine/ It's impossible to cut their salaries. Those 8 vice presidents must be well compensated for what little they do because they're all necessary to protect the poor oppressed underpaid overworked working man from the 'Bain-style vultures' that ruin businesses with silly notions such as profit and loss. Though I do volunteer my services as a vice president and will do the work of 5 of those VPs for only $500,000 per year (plus benefits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I have never been in a Union but I am all for them! I am proworkers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I have never been in a Union but I am all for them! I am proworkers! In other news, water is still wet. How are those workers doing now that they are unemployed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Pro-workers? Unions are the reason jobs are leaving/the country and not coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Pro-workers? Unions are the reason jobs are leaving/the country and not coming back. Shhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Pro-workers? Unions are the reason jobs are leaving/the country and not coming back. Not to people like Pete who get their political views off posters at OWS rallies. If only those CEOs weren't so greedy, all the jobs would still be in the USA and everyone would be making full union wages and benefits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I have never been in a Union but I am all for them! I am proworkers! How is being all for something that costs jobs (such as the 18,000 lost at Hostess last week) being "pro-worker"? Once again...going out of your way to demonstrate your self-centered cluelessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I have never been in a Union but I am all for them! I am proworkers! Name me one job created, maintained and paid for by a union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Name me one job created, maintained and paid for by a union. Our present POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) How is being all for something that costs jobs (such as the 18,000 lost at Hostess last week) being "pro-worker"? Once again...going out of your way to demonstrate your self-centered cluelessness. It might not cost jobs... The activist judge denied the motion FOR NOW... Will mediate the contract personally. http://www.theolympian.com/2012/11/20/2326161/not-so-fast-talks-might-save-hostess.html "The judge overseeing Hostess Brands declined to approve the company's liquidation Monday and asked management and the bakers union to enter mediation today to explain the strike that the maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread said forced it to shut down ..." How do you conservatives feel about that? LoL... I am just poking the hornet's nest... But really, there is going to be a mediation session. Anway... The bakers and the guys in the trades will find a job... Companies have been circling to buy the facilites and brand on the cheap... Edited November 20, 2012 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 It might not cost jobs... The activist judge denied the motion FOR NOW... Will mediate the contract personally. http://www.theolympi...ve-hostess.html "The judge overseeing Hostess Brands declined to approve the company's liquidation Monday and asked management and the bakers union to enter mediation today to explain the strike that the maker of Twinkies and Wonder Bread said forced it to shut down ..." How do you conservatives feel about that? LoL... I am just poking the hornet's nest... But really, there is going to be a mediation session. Anway... The bakers and the guys in the trades will find a job... Companies have been circling to buy the facilites and brand on the cheap... So, the unions will be tossed aside. Ain't that great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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