kenny3000 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Ah ha, ah ha. Want to laugh? Last sentence. "As I've gotten older, it's more neat to see (Manning's) success, to see him getting two Super Bowls, because I think it just adds to the legacy of our draft class," Roethlisberger told Jenny Vrentas of The Star-Ledger. "And all four quarterbacks -- Matt Schaub, Philip (Rivers), myself and Eli -- that were drafted there. I hope we can play well enough that one day they talk about us as maybe the best quarterback draft class of all time." It certainly was one of the more interesting drafts of recent years. After Manning was taken first overall by San Diego, the New York Giants selected Rivers with the fourth pick and worked out a trade with the Chargers to essentially flip quarterbacks. Big Ben then went to the Steelers with the 11th pick, and Schaub went in the third round to the Atlanta Falcons. Less enticing: J.P. Losman, taken No. 22 overall by the Buffalo Bills. http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000088497/big-ben-hopes-2004-qb-class-seen-as-best-ever/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey13 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eli = HoFer Roethlisburger = HoFer If Schuab takes Houston to SB possible HoFer RiverS fringe HoFer. Career trajectory might take to another city then he might make it a SB and the HoF JP Lossman = atleast Marv was trying to be relevant although he was clearly a 3rd round QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eli = HoFer Roethlisburger = HoFer If Schuab takes Houston to SB possible HoFer RiverS fringe HoFer. Career trajectory might take to another city then he might make it a SB and the HoF JP Lossman = atleast Marv was trying to be relevant although he was clearly a 3rd round QB. crayonz????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I don't see any reason why Phillip Rivers would even be mentioned in the same sentence as the HOF....he has absolutely nothing on his resume. JP Lossman = atleast Marv was trying to be relevant although he was clearly a 3rd round QB. Marv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eli = HoFer Roethlisburger = HoFer If Schuab takes Houston to SB possible HoFer RiverS fringe HoFer. Career trajectory might take to another city then he might make it a SB and the HoF JP Lossman = atleast Marv was trying to be relevant although he was clearly a 3rd round QB. Eli- pretty close to a lock already Roethlisberger- a lock already Schaub- are you insane? Rivers- see: Schaub Losman- has about the same chance of making the Hall of Fame as Schaub and Rivers Please realize that making a Super Bowl doesn't get you admission to the Hall of Fame. Donovan McNabb has a better chance of making the Hall of Fame than either of those guys with a ring. Rivers is already past his prime and Schaub is really a game manager with a hell of a team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny3000 Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eli- pretty close to a lock already Roethlisberger- a lock already Schaub- are you insane? Rivers- see: Schaub Losman- has about the same chance of making the Hall of Fame as Schaub and Rivers Please realize that making a Super Bowl doesn't get you admission to the Hall of Fame. Donovan McNabb has a better chance of making the Hall of Fame than either of those guys with a ring. Rivers is already past his prime and Schaub is really a game manager with a hell of a team around him. JP Losman has a 0% chance of making it into the hall of fame. Schaub and Rivers are starting, winning quarterbacks. Their chance of HOF = possible in the realm of Earth. McNabb? Over Eli and Ben? I thought you lost me before, but now definitely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito1 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Only guys that are HOF material in this discussion are Eli and Big Ben. Mcnabb might make some final cuts, but he won't ge in anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I don't see any reason why Phillip Rivers would even be mentioned in the same sentence as the HOF....he has absolutely nothing on his resume. Marv? Stats wise Philip Rivers is the most consistantly impressive QB of his generation. I'm not saying he is a HoF now. I'm saying he is in the Fringe if he puts together a run to the Super Bowl. Schuab is far less likely but if the Texans win the next two Super Bowls then he will be a HoF. Every multiple super bowl winning QB automatically goes into the HoF. Rivers is not past his prime. When he is 36 he'll be past his prime. He is in his prime now. Just lost VJax, LT--, Sproles & Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Who was that JP guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Who was that JP guy ? Well JP did win a UFL championship with the Las Vegas Locos and by all accounts of his fans on this board throws a really pretty deep ball. That may merit some consideration. Schaub and Rivers don't have a UFL championship to their name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Every multiple super bowl winning QB automatically goes into the HoF. Exaggeration is the tool of those who have no confidence in their argument. Have you heard of Ken Stabler, Superbowl winning QB for the Oakland Raiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Ah ha, ah ha. Want to laugh? Last sentence. "As I've gotten older, it's more neat to see (Manning's) success, to see him getting two Super Bowls, because I think it just adds to the legacy of our draft class," Roethlisberger told Jenny Vrentas of The Star-Ledger. "And all four quarterbacks -- Matt Schaub, Philip (Rivers), myself and Eli -- that were drafted there. I hope we can play well enough that one day they talk about us as maybe the best quarterback draft class of all time." It certainly was one of the more interesting drafts of recent years. After Manning was taken first overall by San Diego, the New York Giants selected Rivers with the fourth pick and worked out a trade with the Chargers to essentially flip quarterbacks. Big Ben then went to the Steelers with the 11th pick, and Schaub went in the third round to the Atlanta Falcons. Less enticing: J.P. Losman, taken No. 22 overall by the Buffalo Bills. http://m.nfl.com/new...n-as-best-ever/ That class already has twice as many Lombardi Trophys as the 1983 class has. Exaggeration is the tool of those who have no confidence in their argument. Have you heard of Ken Stabler, Superbowl winning QB for the Oakland Raiders? Ken Stabler wasn't a multiple Super Bowl winning QB, although he should be in the HOF already. Plunkett was a multiple Super Bowl winning QB for the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Ah ha, ah ha. Want to laugh? Last sentence. "As I've gotten older, it's more neat to see (Manning's) success, to see him getting two Super Bowls, because I think it just adds to the legacy of our draft class," Roethlisberger told Jenny Vrentas of The Star-Ledger. "And all four quarterbacks -- Matt Schaub, Philip (Rivers), myself and Eli -- that were drafted there. I hope we can play well enough that one day they talk about us as maybe the best quarterback draft class of all time." Nothing wrong with this....not fact as of current day but certainly not a proclamation or guarantee on Ben's part. "adds...hope...one day....maybe" Class of '83....hands down. But Ben's comment is not a ridiculous statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eli = HoFer Roethlisburger = HoFer If Schuab takes Houston to SB possible HoFer RiverS fringe HoFer. Career trajectory might take to another city then he might make it a SB and the HoF JP Lossman = atleast Marv was trying to be relevant although he was clearly a 3rd round QB. Marv didn't draft JP Losman. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Exaggeration is the tool of those who have no confidence in their argument. Have you heard of Ken Stabler, Superbowl winning QB for the Oakland Raiders? English is the tool of choice on this board. Read my statement again and see if it applies to Ken Stabler? Specifically the "multiple" piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Nothing wrong with this....not fact as of current day but certainly not a proclamation or guarantee on Ben's part. "adds...hope...one day....maybe" Class of '83....hands down. But Ben's comment is not a ridiculous statement. In terms of HOF QBs, yes the class of '83 is hard to beat. But Big Ben's class already has more rings. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Marv didn't draft JP Losman. GO BILLS!!! Ah yes that was our Fantasy Football GM Tom Donahoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Who was that JP guy ? The waterboy CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Big Ben will get another SB, Manning, too. Rivers will relocate, he will have to, god wouldn't he look good up in San Fran? Schuab is a fringe top of his decade QB which doesn't punch a ticket to Canton. Could the 2004 class be the best QB class of all time? It could. Craig Krenzel, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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