Juror#8 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Everyone's saying Obama will win Wisconsin, but I'm not as convinced. He may, but I don't see how you can explain Walker winning the election for governor TWICE (recall), and Prosser winning the Supreme Court vote, but the state won't turn red? Plus, Ryan is from Wisconsin, so that has to help right? I guess we'll see. Your points definitely stand to reason. But for whatever reason, there is a logical disunion between state-wide politics and presidential politics. Maryland, to my surprise, experimented with a Republican Governor (Erlich) in the middle part of last decade. Maryland will NEVER be a red state. It is as reliably democratic as California. California, NY, etc. are states that have or have had republican governor's in strongly democratic states. Montana, SD, ND, WY are states that are very Republican but that have also elected Democratic senators within the last decade. Also, Gore couldn't carry his state in 92, 96 or 2000. I don't think Clinton carried Arkansas in 92. Romney is not carrying Michigan, or Massachussets, or Colorado. George W. didn't carry Connecticut. Except for Gore, the others were at the top of their ticket. I'm not sure how influential the VP is in carrying or helping to carry a state even though that consideration is very much ballyhooed in the mid-summer vice-presidential selection process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 1980 redux. It's felt like the late 70s the last four years. I don't think it's close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 1980 redux. It's felt like the late 70s the last four years. I don't think it's close. Wow. That's bold. Love the 'Rakim' signature line by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Your points definitely stand to reason. But for whatever reason, there is a logical disunion between state-wide politics and presidential politics. Maryland, to my surprise, experimented with a Republican Governor (Erlich) in the middle part of last decade. Maryland will NEVER be a red state. It is as reliably democratic as California. California, NY, etc. are states that have or have had republican governor's in strongly democratic states. Montana, SD, ND, WY are states that are very Republican but that have also elected Democratic senators within the last decade. Also, Gore couldn't carry his state in 92, 96 or 2000. I don't think Clinton carried Arkansas in 92. Romney is not carrying Michigan, or Massachussets, or Colorado. George W. didn't carry Connecticut. Except for Gore, the others were at the top of their ticket. I'm not sure how influential the VP is in carrying or helping to carry a state even though that consideration is very much ballyhooed in the mid-summer vice-presidential selection process. pretty sure Clinton always carried Arkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 pretty sure Clinton always carried Arkansas You may be right. I posted those electoral stats off memory so please double-check my facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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