NoSaint Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Turns out Levitre had surgery too..... What a malcontent! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/29/bills-getting-healthier-on-the-offensive-line/ And chan was likewise vague. And was levitre on the injury report? I honestly don't recall. Probably not people that have so many surgeries and issues as professional football players. Sure, some things that are major like a knee injury and surgery. Or a torn something. But when you go to the doctor and they say, we'll, it looks like a quick 45 min surgery. No big deal. You'll be out less than a week. I doubt they pay much attention to those as they have surely had so many it would be hard to decipher between them all. It was a all issue. It was taken care of. No big deal. Lets get back to playing some football. Exactly. It would be nearly on par with asking what was in the cold medicine you took, or pain reliever. I was sick so I took some NyQuil. My wrist hurt so they cleaned it up. Slight exaggeration..... but its really common for these guys to be touched up
ramses Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 arthroscopy is basically a (minor) surgical procedure wherein a flexible tube with an attached camera is inserted into any joint space. it doesn't necessary mean surgery was done - it can be done simply to "take a look". if the joint space is clean, no intervention is done. if there is something wrong (debris of any sort, bony, ligamentous), the surgeon has the option of correcting it right then and there. kinda like a colonoscopy - sometimes the gastroenterologist takes a look and gives you a clean bill of health. sometimes a polyp is found and the doctor can go ahead and remove it. a clean joint space is a happy, pain-free, full range of motion joint space. any 'debris' can cause problems with any of these aspects. arthroscopy is generally a same day procedure, done in an outpatient surgical center - very low risk.
Just in Atlanta Posted October 29, 2012 Author Posted October 29, 2012 Turns out Levitre had surgery too..... What a malcontent! http://profootballta...offensive-line/ [yawn] There was drama, and mystery, and bad PR, surrounding Mario's surgery from the get-go. It's a legitimate question/concern for a Bills fan to have. Besides, Mario was supposed to be the second coming of Bruce Smith. No one outside of Buffalo Nation knows who Levitre is.
Peter Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Which one of you guys is Jerry Sullivan? I watched the interview on bb.com. Some of you guys are just looking for reasons to rip him. Complaints about this interview are much ado about nothing. I am more interested in his play on the field. I thought that the media would be happy that he answered questions on a Monday (in addition to Wednesday and Sunday). Maybe one of the reporters tripped over Mario's refrigerator.
RealityCheck Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Does anyone know, or have an educated guess, what actually went down here--from a medical and PR perspective? Mario says this: "I just had it cleaned up. I mean from whatever I injured earlier on in the year. There was a bunch of junk and stuff that was in there. That's the reason why I couldn't have motion and couldn't really use it... I couldn't tell you exactly the terminology of that. I mean they cleaned it up. I wasn't awake, so I don't know. It is what it is, basically just cleaning it out." Just "cleaned up?" "Junk and stuff?" WTF is that? Makes as much as sense as Wanny's repeated use of the phrase "not fitting it up." You have an $98 million wrist, and don't know (or you're not saying) what the procedure was? And you text the front office about it? And, supposedly, they knew, but that's not what the previous stories implied. Further, the Buffalo staff weren't able to clean out some junk? (And stuff). Whole thing is bizarre from this fan's viewpoint.
Captain Hindsight Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 [yawn] There was drama, and mystery, and bad PR, surrounding Mario's surgery from the get-go. It's a legitimate question/concern for a Bills fan to have. Besides, Mario was supposed to be the second coming of Bruce Smith. No one outside of Buffalo Nation knows who Levitre is. [Yawn] You are looking for a reason to hate a guy that doesnt have 58 sacks by now and have already made up you mind when he didnt flatten sanchez on every play in the opener
vincec Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 In other news, Mario texted Chan last night that he has decided to play linebacker in next week's game.
Just in Atlanta Posted October 29, 2012 Author Posted October 29, 2012 [Yawn] You are looking for a reason to hate a guy that doesnt have 58 sacks by now and have already made up you mind when he didnt flatten sanchez on every play in the opener For a guy with great hindsight, you have bad insight. In all seriousness, my mind, and I think most fans' minds, still isn't made up on him. And I still think he can be great. And I wasn't expecting 58 sacks. Fifty maybe. For the zillionth time, his comments, and the situation surrounding the surgery, was weird. Nonetheless, look forward to seeing him on the field Sunday. The 50 thing was a joke btw. arthroscopy is basically a (minor) surgical procedure wherein a flexible tube with an attached camera is inserted into any joint space. it doesn't necessary mean surgery was done - it can be done simply to "take a look". if the joint space is clean, no intervention is done. if there is something wrong (debris of any sort, bony, ligamentous), the surgeon has the option of correcting it right then and there. kinda like a colonoscopy - sometimes the gastroenterologist takes a look and gives you a clean bill of health. sometimes a polyp is found and the doctor can go ahead and remove it. a clean joint space is a happy, pain-free, full range of motion joint space. any 'debris' can cause problems with any of these aspects. arthroscopy is generally a same day procedure, done in an outpatient surgical center - very low risk. thx for the explanation.
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) For a guy with great hindsight, you have bad insight. In all seriousness, my mind, and I think most fans' minds, still isn't made up on him. And I still think he can be great. And I wasn't expecting 58 sacks. Fifty maybe. For the zillionth time, his comments, and the situation surrounding the surgery, was weird. Nonetheless, look forward to seeing him on the field Sunday. The 50 thing was a joke btw. Lets say this: how players and coaches handle and discuss injuries is anything but standardized. What you read into this likely speaks volumes to your pre-conceived notions, good and bad. If you think Mario is lazy and has a problem with authority this was a smoking gun. Especially if you reacted before trying to understand the procedure. Edited October 29, 2012 by NoSaint
PS 56 Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Simple...he had duodenal distension on the pyloric sphincter and antrum of the gastric corpus. They merely went in there with a skill saw, a pair of needle nose pliers, a jigger of bourbon, and some wet-naps from KFC. Cleaned it up.....feel better? Sounds like you have my health plan too...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Lets say this: how players and coaches handle and discuss injuries is anything but standardized. What you read into this likely speaks volumes to your pre-conceived notions, good and bad. If you think Mario is lazy and has a problem with authority this was a smoking gun. Especially if you reacted before trying to understand the procedure. This^
CodeMonkey Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Gailey said, via the team’s website. “He just had something, a procedure, and I hate to use that word, he had something done on his knee. They injected it or they did something to it but he’s fine.” So basically the HC has no F'ing idea what they did to his knee, but knows said player is fine.
Mr. WEO Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Does anyone know, or have an educated guess, what actually went down here--from a medical and PR perspective? Mario says this: "I just had it cleaned up. I mean from whatever I injured earlier on in the year. There was a bunch of junk and stuff that was in there. That's the reason why I couldn't have motion and couldn't really use it... I couldn't tell you exactly the terminology of that. I mean they cleaned it up. I wasn't awake, so I don't know. It is what it is, basically just cleaning it out." Perhaps he simply had a high colonic.
Just in Atlanta Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 That's what I thought at first.
Captain Hindsight Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Chan said he was in contact all along with Mario. The conspiracy theory is so much more interesting though
NoSaint Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 So basically the HC has no F'ing idea what they did to his knee, but knows said player is fine. he gains absolutely nothing from giving detailed reports. heck, if the docs tell him its minor and he will be up and running for practice this week, he doesnt have much reason to press further. hes a football coach, not a doctor. Chan said he was in contact all along with Mario. The conspiracy theory is so much more interesting though but i want to be angry and think chan is totally befuddled, buddy is MIA and mario does whatever he wants!
Captain Hindsight Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 he gains absolutely nothing from giving detailed reports. heck, if the docs tell him its minor and he will be up and running for practice this week, he doesnt have much reason to press further. hes a football coach, not a doctor. but i want to be angry and think chan is totally befuddled, buddy is MIA and mario does whatever he wants! Youre life must be boring!
Peter Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Chan said he was in contact all along with Mario. The conspiracy theory is so much more interesting though So true. It seems like so many people want to read more into this to fit whatever narrative they have (e.g., Sully). Hopefully, Mario's pass rushing this weekend and beyond is what we had anticipated and all this BS goes away.
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Can you say WONDERLIC? Hope his financial skills surpass his medical knowledge.
CFLstyle Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 It's kind of like excuse are like A holes every one has one & they usually stink !! Which in this case Mario's excuse for his ineptness on the field is his wrist . Heck i can remember guys that have played on the offensive & defensive line in years past that have played with BROKEN ARMS in a cast !! That played for a lot less money too !! Unless this guy comes out in the second half f the season on fire he will be run out of town on a rail ! He may play good in this game this week because he will be motivated by the fact that he is going back to his old team & wants to show them that they made a mistake by letting him go . IMHO the following week will be the tell all , if he plays well this week & then disappears again after then we will all be able to tell what he is made of , MONEY MONEY MONEY !! And people wonder why the Bills have trouble attracting big names in free agency. If I were a free agent and saw the way Mario's been treated by some Bills fans, I'd never want to sign here.
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