JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Based on things I've heard Chan Gailey say, I have a feeling he has 0 input or control over what the Defense does or how it does it. And it's my impression that's how he wants it. I'd look stuff up but I don't have time right now. Just my interpretation of things. Edited October 24, 2012 by JÂy RÛßeÒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Dude. Gailey is Wanny's boss. Either Wanny's boss cans him if he doesn't get the expected results, or Wanny's boss will be canned. There is no such thing as autonomy in this business. You either produce or you're on to your next gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsRUs Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Dude. Gailey is Wanny's boss. Either Wanny's boss cans him if he doesn't get the expected results, or Wanny's boss will be canned. There is no such thing as autonomy in this business. You either produce or you're on to your next gig. For sooth sayeth you, Dr. Tooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I think I understand what he's saying to a point combing through Gailey's words he's not defensive minded at all and prefers to have that left up completely to someone else. Not to the point where anyone has autonomy but the more Gailey can stay out of that the more comfortable he is with that. Gailey just another in the long line of better coordinator than head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Dude. Gailey is Wanny's boss. Either Wanny's boss cans him if he doesn't get the expected results, or Wanny's boss will be canned. There is no such thing as autonomy in this business. You either produce or you're on to your next gig. Dude, where's the link to your claim that Gailey makes 600K per year? Were still waiting. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Dude, where's the link to your claim that Gailey makes 600K per year? Were still waiting. Thanks! WTF? Who stated anything about Gailey making 600K/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) WTF? Who stated anything about Gailey making 600K/yr. Oops, confused you with "the voice of truth" from another thread who has made that claim. Gotta stop these 3 martoony lunches. Edited October 24, 2012 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Jay, are you using bits from the players to make that assumption? I hesitate saying assumption, but it is. Listening and reading player comments I wonder about the same thing now that you mention it. The players seem to dancing to the music they are playing themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Gailey has said this numerous times during the press conferences. He doesn't sit in on the defensive meetings and doesn't have much in the defensive game plan. He did imply that if things don't improve he may start asking wtf, but frankly I doubt he knows much about coaching defense at the pro level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Really, it's immaterial whether Gailey has input or not. Whether he's involved or not he bears ultimate responsibility so if the defense sucks, it's a reflection of him as a head coach. If he chooses not to be the control freak that so many NFL coaches are, then he does so at his own peril, and responsibility. Just because a parent turns a blind eye to his child's underage parties doesn't absolve that parent of responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 you hire a guy to do a job, then let him do his job. If it's not good enough he'll be fired....they know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 you hire a guy to do a job, then let him do his job. If it's not good enough he'll be fired....they know that Actually, if he's not good enough and you hired him, you might be fired. I think that's the point. So you'd better "help" him be "good enough" like Coughlin and Cowher helped Gilbride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 NFL32 on ESPN said that Wanny is not the problem. If it is not him or the scheme (very vanilla) then one can assume that it is the players. Bad mix. Lazy Vets and green rookies. Kelsay calling out the D is refreshing. Now who is gonna kick them in the pants to get the changes made? Wanny better be up to that task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Actually, if he's not good enough and you hired him, you might be fired. I think that's the point. So you'd better "help" him be "good enough" like Coughlin and Cowher helped Gilbride. No matter how you look at it Gailey comes out looking like a fool. If you're going to be hands off, then you'd better hire somebody super-competent so you don't have to worry about the defense. OTOH, if you have a lot of say in the defense and it still performs like crap, you are incompetent. Maybe Buddy should have picked up one of those 15 calls he was getting on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 There is no way that Gailey doesn't know enough about an NFL defense to sit down and watch a tape and see how other NFL teams are ripping through his defense like a hot chainsaw through butter. He can put all the lipstick he wants on it, but he hired Wannstedt and he is the one allowing this suckfest to continue through the first half of the season. Why doesn't he say that these performances are simply unacceptable and will be fixed instead of the "I don't know" and "I don't have any answers" Barney Fife routine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Wanny should have been fired by now. With him on board our team will give up 90+ points over the next 2 games unless they show mercy and put their back-ups in early- even then we may very well give up 90+ points in the next 2 games (combined of course, not each). Chan is committing career suicide by not firing his buddy Dave W. and insisting on sticking with Fitz. I think Chan could be a good OC but he is failing as a HC. We need a GM & HC that will get us a real QB and DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 imo chan is learning the hard way that nice guys finish last. he's trying to give everyone room to feel comfortable and do their jobs without inteference because he think's everyone will respecthim more that way. unfortunately it's not working and if he doesn't a-hol it up in a hurry he's going to be the one tking the fall. i think he knows this but he seems powerless to do anytihg about it. you think belichek would sit around and watch one side of the ball flounder like this week after week? that's one big reason they win every year despite drafting in the 20s and 30s...it's called ACCOUNTABILITY. NFL-caliber accountability has been absent from the organization for years and this is just the latest example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Why doesn't he say that these performances are simply unacceptable and will be fixed instead of the "I don't know" and "I don't have any answers" Barney Fife routine? I just came out of a seminar and in it we watched a video of Jeff Immelt and he was talking about his theories of management, etc. In one segment he was talking about managerial accountability and the art of managing change and difficult circumstances. He said, "I beat myself up every night, but in the morning it's a new day. Because can you imagine me standing up in front of my employees and saying,"I honestly don't know what to do and what we should do next." Therein lies our answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Gailey has said this numerous times during the press conferences. He doesn't sit in on the defensive meetings and doesn't have much in the defensive game plan. He did imply that if things don't improve he may start asking wtf, but frankly I doubt he knows much about coaching defense at the pro level. This. I think the idea that Wannstedt has complete autonomy over the D is self evident. I'm sure that when he was elevated, he was told he'd have complete autonomy on the D side - this is why he was given the title "Assistant Head Coach" in addition to the D Cooordinator title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I just came out of a seminar and in it we watched a video of Jeff Immelt and he was talking about his theories of management, etc. In one segment he was talking about managerial accountability and the art of managing change and difficult circumstances. He said, "I beat myself up every night, but in the morning it's a new day. Because can you imagine me standing up in front of my employees and saying,"I honestly don't know what to do and what we should do next." Therein lies our answer. But if George Wilson catches the int.-- the talk is about a team that finds a way to win in the end. What a roller coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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