DaveinElma Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 http://www.cnbc.com/id/49481081 Obama wouldn't do that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 The visual always just flashes back to a story out of Iraq several years ago of the prime minister Nouri al-Maliki handing out $50 bills (US Dollars) wherever he went to people who begged at his entourage. There was no recording system taking down names or whatever, no system of 'Muhammed Muhammed makes [$2] a day and has five children.' It was just essentially being like Jack Nickleson's Joker in the 1990 Batman movie, standing on a parade float and tossing out from black garbage bags full of cash. Now, in both cases, you can say that this is money going to people who need it. But it's a pretty damn effective way of buying a vote if you're like 'Hey, I've given you money that you didn't have to work for. The other guy is going to reduce the amount of free money you get.' Guess which one gets votes from enough interested people. Presidential elections today are won with ~44-46 million votes. How many people are on welfare, food stamps, etc. again??!? And there, all along, still sits the premonitious quote: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with a result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Sir Alexander Fraser Tyler "Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 The visual always just flashes back to a story out of Iraq several years ago of the prime minister Nouri al-Maliki handing out $50 bills (US Dollars) wherever he went to people who begged at his entourage. There was no recording system taking down names or whatever, no system of 'Muhammed Muhammed makes [$2] a day and has five children.' It was just essentially being like Jack Nickleson's Joker in the 1990 Batman movie, standing on a parade float and tossing out from black garbage bags full of cash. Good post. Except now I can't get rid of the picture of Mr. Obama saying "Hubba hubba hubba, who do you trust"................lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 This country needs an enema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Obama isn't buying votes. He is however further progressing a framework that has slowly shifted power from the individual to the state. The more people that are on welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid (via Obamacare) plus increasing the number of Federal workers increasing the number of people dependent upon the Government for their sustenance. This increases the voting bloc for Progressives who when in power take more from the producers, take a cut for themselves and their allies first, then pass along other people's money to the people that voted them in It's Progressive syle trickle down economics And as more people are dependent upon the Government, this shifts power away from the individual citizen and towards the benevolent central planners Edited October 20, 2012 by /dev/null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 A "grass-roots" example................ Pot Prizes May Have Lured More Eagle Rock Residents To Vote EAGLE ROCK (CBSLA.com) — Fliers offering $40 worth of free medical-grade marijuana were reportedly passed out in Eagle Rock to try and draw residents to vote in the local election. Was the free pot an incentive to get a larger turnout? Politics ranked “high” on resident’s list of priorities. Nearly 10 times as many voters – 792 residents – turned out to the polls during the recent Neighborhood Council elections than last year. “It’s a little weird that people can’t come out and vote on their own. I see that as a problem, as a social symptom,” Eagle Rock resident Joerael Elliott said. Many residents told CBS2′s Juan Fernandez they didn’t think enticing voters with perks was right. “You can’t pay your way like that, that’s not cool,” resident Danielle Sargent said. No one is claiming responsibility for the flier. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_dodgers007 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 You guys are totally shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 And there, all along, still sits the premonitious quote: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with a result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years." Sir Alexander Fraser Tyler "Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic" It's a good thing we're a republic then. You're smarter than that, I know it because I've read and enjoyed many posts from you over the years. Obama isn't buying votes. He is however further progressing a framework that has slowly shifted power from the individual to the state. The more people that are on welfare, SNAP, and Medicaid (via Obamacare) plus increasing the number of Federal workers increasing the number of people dependent upon the Government for their sustenance. This increases the voting bloc for Progressives who when in power take more from the producers, take a cut for themselves and their allies first, then pass along other people's money to the people that voted them in It's Progressive syle trickle down economics And as more people are dependent upon the Government, this shifts power away from the individual citizen and towards the benevolent central planners I agree with almost everything you say in this post but for the assertion that this movement towards bigger government will in anyway stop under Romney. The scope and power of the federal government to monitor and control the individual without due process expanded more under the 8 years of Bush than in any other time in American history. Despite being a socialist/marxist/progressive/whatever conservatives want to label him as, Obama has done nothing but strengthen those new instruments and continue the expansive reach of the federal government, continuing the work of the past 8 years. Both sides are marching us towards the same finish line, they just use different adjectives. A "grass-roots" example................ Is it too late to change my residence and vote in Eagle Rock? It's Saturday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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