TakeYouToTasker Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Well then let me explain how I come to my opinion. Honestly I don't follow college football like many of you. I had heard the name Manti T'eo because he was so hyped, knew he was a Heisman candidate, etc. So I made it a point to watch the BCS championship because I wanted to see what this kid was all about. I don't have to tell you he was a colossal disappointment. Maybe he was god's gift to football up to that point. I don't know. What I do know is this guy, in that game, against talent close to what he would face in the NFL, looked like he didn't even belong on the field. The whole girlfriend thing was funny but didn't alter my opinion of his performance. After the Aaron Maybin fiasco, I can't believe so many here are willing to give T'eo a pass. Sure, players have bad games. But do players forget how to play football? Sorry, that T'eo performance was so abysmal it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get drafted at all. PTR When you see film that doesn't mesh with what you think you know about a player, it's time to watch more film. If you can't be bothered, then don't act offended when your willful ignorance is showcased after you offer opinions anchored in... well... nothing...
3rdand12 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 i was a fan of him. But I was naive. The 4.8 sealed it. I have the right to change my opinion when i am able to gather more information Pass.
FleaMoulds80 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) i was a fan of him. But I was naive. The 4.8 sealed it. I have the right to change my opinion when i am able to gather more information Pass. Another stupid comment from someone OBSESSED with the 40. A LB runs a 4.84 and he sucks but an undersized WR runs a 4.24 and he's the talk of the town. In case you didn't realize this is football. Not a track meet. This is why i hate the 40 yd dash. Most overrated event at the combine. What does it show? Nothing. If anything, they should be made to run a 40 yd dash with full pads and from a 2 point stance. That would actually show something Edited February 26, 2013 by FleaMoulds80
Maury Ballstein Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Jboyst > Manti Teo Sounds like the speed is still there. I don't watch a to of college football but I agree with PTR on the Teo issue Only game I watched and he got juked out of his shoes way too often. That being said good luck to him if we somehow draft him. I heard some scouts say he's a poor mans Luke Keuchly...doesn't sound like a big deal. Edited February 26, 2013 by Ryan L Billz
boyst Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Jboyst > Manti Teo Sounds like the speed is still there. I don't watch a to of college football but I agree with PTR on the Teo issue Only game I watched and he got juked out of his shoes way too often. That being said good luck to him if we somehow draft him. It is worse then that. He got beat on such easy issues and was exposed by Saban. I need to go look at his benching. If he didn't put it up over 12 times then the guy is gonna fall far.
Maury Ballstein Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Says here Teo opted not to do the bench press ??? Weird. I saw mayock was roasting Damontre Moore as top 5 pick as his bench press was only at 12 reps
PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) When you see film that doesn't mesh with what you think you know about a player, it's time to watch more film. If you can't be bothered, then don't act offended when your willful ignorance is showcased after you offer opinions anchored in... well... nothing... If I'm willfully ignorant then you need to get a hold of the press that think T'eo combine is killing his draft chances. Seems I'm not the only one who feels the guy is a hype. PTR Edited February 26, 2013 by PromoTheRobot
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 If I'm willfully ignorant then you need to get a hold of the press that think T'eo combine is killing his draft chances. Seems I'm not the only one who feels the guy is a hype. PTR There is a huge differece between feeling and scouting. Your opinion is a fart in the wind.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 If by "special" you mean slow, weak and not too intelligent, then i wholeheartedly agree.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 There is a huge differece between feeling and scouting. Your opinion is a fart in the wind. The feeling is spreading. You need to get busy straitening these people out. PTR
Gugny Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Another stupid comment from someone OBSESSED with the 40. A LB runs a 4.84 and he sucks but an undersized WR runs a 4.24 and he's the talk of the town. In case you didn't realize this is football. Not a track meet. This is why i hate the 40 yd dash. Most overrated event at the combine. What does it show? Nothing. If anything, they should be made to run a 40 yd dash with full pads and from a 2 point stance. That would actually show something I think "stupid" is a tad harsh. If the 40 yd dash meant nothing, I'm certain people qualified far more than you would remove it. See how I did that? Rebuking what you said without calling you stupid? Try it.
NoSaint Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) The feeling is spreading. You need to get busy straitening these people out. PTR From your own link: Te'o has to hope now that teams fall in love with his non-Alabama film, which is superb, and he has a better workout on March 26 at Notre Dame's pro day. I also noticed you missed the coach that referred to him as "a rock star" after interviews I hate how polarized most people are. He's a talented kid that's not a game breaker. Why is that so hard for both sides to settle on? Edited February 26, 2013 by NoSaint
3rdand12 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Another stupid comment from someone OBSESSED with the 40. A LB runs a 4.84 and he sucks but an undersized WR runs a 4.24 and he's the talk of the town. In case you didn't realize this is football. Not a track meet. This is why i hate the 40 yd dash. Most overrated event at the combine. What does it show? Nothing. If anything, they should be made to run a 40 yd dash with full pads and from a 2 point stance. That would actually show something Thanks.I was suggesting that a great deal of information was accumulated as i reformed my opinion about the kid. And then his most recent performance at the combine reassured me that i was not on board with him at eight. OBSESSED IS A WORD I WOULD HARDLY DESCRIBE MYSELF IN ANY CATEGORY NOR WOULD MOST OF MY PEERS. Although i do understand your point. but you certainly are a wanker. on a good day Sir
NoSaint Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Thanks. I was suggesting that a great deal of information was accumulated as i reformed my opinion about the kid. And then his most recent performance at the combine reassured me that i was not on board with him at eight. OBSESSED IS A WORD I WOULD HARDLY DESCRIBE MYSELF IN ANY CATEGORY NOR WOULD MOST OF MY PEERS. Although i do understand your point. but you certainly are a wanker. on a good day Sir He's never really been in the discussion at 8. What do you think at 41 is the only real talk here
3rdand12 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) I think "stupid" is a tad harsh. If the 40 yd dash meant nothing, I'm certain people qualified far more than you would remove it. See how I did that? Rebuking what you said without calling you stupid? Try it. you certainly must have deep resentful built up over years, anger issues, Fig.May i suggest you tone it down. Some of us folk are especially sensitive. He's never really been in the discussion at 8. What do you think at 41 is the only real talk here Sure he was Saint. He was mocked for us when mocking was up and coming. Along with a whole lot of others.Of course he has fallen since the bama game. i wouldnt take him at 41 at this point. i dont think he will transition well. just me Edited February 26, 2013 by 3rdand12
Maury Ballstein Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Nice. Fleamoulds was flaming me on the Tavon Austin thread glad to see he's after everyone else too.
NoSaint Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 you certainly must have deep resentful built up over years, anger issues, Fig. May i suggest you tone it down. Some of us folk are especially sensitive. Sure he was Saint. He was mocked for us when mocking was up and coming. Along with a whole lot of others. Of course he has fallen since the bama game. i wouldnt take him at 41 at this point. i dont think he will transition well. just me That's cool - so was clausen. Does that mean the nfl thought he's a top 10 prospect? This 40 time isn't shocking to anyone watching him. The media built him too high now they need to tear him down to get to an accurate spot.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 From your own link: Te'o has to hope now that teams fall in love with his non-Alabama film, which is superb, and he has a better workout on March 26 at Notre Dame's pro day. I also noticed you missed the coach that referred to him as "a rock star" after interviews I hate how polarized most people are. He's a talented kid that's not a game breaker. Why is that so hard for both sides to settle on? Here's why: because T'eo was being touted as a Top 10 pick. At that level you have to be the kind of player who can start day 1 and have an impact. The NFL is not easier than Alabama. Again, I am stunned that the Teo fans act like the BCS championship was just a bad day at the office. I'm equally stunned that people who think that he's still worth a 2nd or 3rd pick. If a guy can't play, he's not worth any pick. It's just my opinion. We'll see on draft day. Then we'll see what he does in the NFL, assuming he makes it. PTR
3rdand12 Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 That's cool - so was clausen. Does that mean the nfl thought he's a top 10 prospect? This 40 time isn't shocking to anyone watching him. The media built him too high now they need to tear him down to get to an accurate spot. No that certainly doesn't.How would we the fans know that ? He has been a media darling and we have been manipulated. It's not been nice to watch. He is a good football player who has gotten turned around. As you mention by the media. kind of a shame. I did not have expectations but his combine did not help him imo
papazoid Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 If by "special" you mean slow, weak and not too intelligent, then i wholeheartedly agree. exactly......
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