jumbalaya Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Teo is a leader and who will not leave his teammates behind.
QCity Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Reading the first 2-3 pages of this thread is pretty funny.
#34fan Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) I just wonder how fast some of these "speed" guys would be in full pads and helmet. Anyone can have a decent 40 time butt naked. I wouldn't be shocked if Teo was faster than some of the better times when suited up. Edited February 25, 2013 by #34fan
sodbuster Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Teo is a leader and who will not leave his teammates behind. possibly because he wants it the other way around?
Acantha Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I just wonder how fast some of these "speed" guys would be in full pads and helmet. Anyone can have a decent 40 time butt naked. I wouldn't be shocked if Teo was faster than some of the better times when suited up. Not a great argument. If anyone can have better times in underwear then why didn't Teo? Anyone who watches him play has been very aware that he isn't speedy. Teo excelled by knowing his assignments, reading the offense, and taking good angles. He has very average speed and showed as much. It's not a surprise.
#34fan Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 Not a great argument. If anyone can have better times in underwear then why didn't Teo? Anyone who watches him play has been very aware that he isn't speedy. Teo excelled by knowing his assignments, reading the offense, and taking good angles. He has very average speed and showed as much. It's not a surprise. I'm just going by what I saw him do in pads... He was a very disruptive player, and affected opposing QB's decisions. He's instinctive, with tremendous anticipation. You can't see any of that chit when a guy is sprinting 40 yards in a jockstrap.
BobChalmers Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I don't care if Teo is a drag queen. I care if he can play. Based on the Bama game I have my doubts. His "3 years of excellent work" means nothing to me because I did not see him play those games and I have good reason to doubt his reports as biased. I saw the Bama game. He looked like how I would look if I played MLB. That wasn't just a bad day, it was getting your pants pulled down exposed at mid field. PTR This. The weirdness with his "dead" imaginary "girlfriend" isn't great (shows some shaky mental skills?) but he should have fallen like a stone in any draft board after he totally crapped the bed in the BIGGEST GAME OF HIS LIFE! He needs to look GOOD in these workouts. 4.8 ain't it. It's just more evidence that he may be a solid leader, etc., but he's not an elite athlete - and at #8 how do you even dream of taking an ILB who isn't elite?? I seriously wonder if the release of the whole "girlfriend" fiasco wasn't intentional to distract everyone from his horrible onfield performance. I'm just going by what I saw him do in pads... He was a very disruptive player, and affected opposing QB's decisions. He's instinctive, with tremendous anticipation. You can't see any of that chit when a guy is sprinting 40 yards in a jockstrap. Only thing he was disrupting in the BIGGEST GAME OF HIS LIFE was the underside of Alabama cleats as they stomped all over him.
RyanC883 Posted February 25, 2013 Posted February 25, 2013 I just wonder how fast some of these "speed" guys would be in full pads and helmet. Anyone can have a decent 40 time butt naked. I wouldn't be shocked if Teo was faster than some of the better times when suited up. After watching the Alabama game, and others, he looks slow. He is generally in the right position to make plays, but he played behind a great DL. He can't shed blockers or cover. I'd pass on him.
CSBill Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I just wonder how fast some of these "speed" guys would be in full pads and helmet. Anyone can have a decent 40 time butt naked. I wouldn't be shocked if Teo was faster than some of the better times when suited up. This was meant to be humorous, right? The wheels on the bus go round and round.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 we already know the answer though: "Far from it." The second part of his answer would be, "not that there's anything wrong with that." A year or so back someone started a Glee thread and surprisingly several posters came forward to express what a great show they thought it was. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Not to interrupt the Junior High fest, but does anyone know what the average MLB runs? If T'eo continues to slip, he starts to fall into the range of the Bills' 2d round pick. Based on median and mean averages, it looks like Manti's in the slower half of the 12 ILBs that ran. However his 10 yard split was pretty good as was his shuttle. His expected average 40 times mean that he's not gonna be an elite 3-down linebacker. But if he has the instincts there's no reason he can't be a good 2-down linebacker. http://footballsfuture.com/2013/combine/ilb.html I agree that it makes no sense to ask him in private because he'll say the same thing he did in public. The actual words are almost immaterial IMO. Interviewers will be looking at the facial expressions, body language, tone of voice, more than the words. Teo is a leader and who will not leave his teammates behind. At 4.80 in the forty, you are correct.
boyst Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Ha. I just saw dude ran a 4.8. Shoot, even I ran a 4.61 and I was a freaking OL/TE and DE. That's a pretty presumptuous thing to say. I don't know... I mean, yes, it is. However, this is a billion dollar industry and when looking at it as a business decision how could a GM justify bringing a gay man on the team when it could bring more headlines, distrust and outrage? If he went to the Niner's I would be worried that it would become a weekly deal during training camp where his sexuality comes in to conversation with the comments from that idiot. There is just a lot of he would have to work though. It's not fair, it's not right, but it is that way. Having to overcome the initial sting, the bold headlines and the constant rumors would be huge. Of course, it could easily die down. And if I ran a team and any player commented about it speaking out against it I would cut them immediately. Edited February 26, 2013 by jboyst62
Gugny Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Ha. I just saw dude ran a 4.8. Shoot, even I ran a 4.61 and I was a freaking OL/TE and DE. Tape. Or it never happened.
boyst Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) Tape. Or it never happened. Dude, I ran college track a short while at a D1 school. In High school I was the MVR of the team, as big as I was - I could run like the wind. My 100m, and 400m times were very good, my 110mH and 30mH were school records, etc... edited: to avoid confusion saying I was any good against D1 college guys...ha Edited February 26, 2013 by jboyst62
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 I don't care if Teo is a drag queen. I care if he can play. Based on the Bama game I have my doubts. His "3 years of excellent work" means nothing to me because I did not see him play those games and I have good reason to doubt his reports as biased. I saw the Bama game. He looked like how I would look if I played MLB. That wasn't just a bad day, it was getting your pants pulled down exposed at mid field. PTR ... This means it's time to watch more game film, not whatever you thought it meant.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 ... This means it's time to watch more game film, not whatever you thought it meant. Okey dokey, Vince Lombardi. PTR
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Okey dokey, Vince Lombardi. PTR Te'o's abilities completely aside, I'm absolutely astonished that you believe any valued opinion on player performance could be formed on the content of a single game film. High school coaches don't do that, never mind Vince Lombardi.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Te'o's abilities completely aside, I'm absolutely astonished that you believe any valued opinion on player performance could be formed on the content of a single game film. High school coaches don't do that, never mind Vince Lombardi. Well then let me explain how I come to my opinion. Honestly I don't follow college football like many of you. I had heard the name Manti T'eo because he was so hyped, knew he was a Heisman candidate, etc. So I made it a point to watch the BCS championship because I wanted to see what this kid was all about. I don't have to tell you he was a colossal disappointment. Maybe he was god's gift to football up to that point. I don't know. What I do know is this guy, in that game, against talent close to what he would face in the NFL, looked like he didn't even belong on the field. The whole girlfriend thing was funny but didn't alter my opinion of his performance. After the Aaron Maybin fiasco, I can't believe so many here are willing to give T'eo a pass. Sure, players have bad games. But do players forget how to play football? Sorry, that T'eo performance was so abysmal it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get drafted at all. PTR
Gugny Posted February 26, 2013 Posted February 26, 2013 Dude, I ran college track a short while at a D1 school. Was the MVR of the team, as big as I was - I could run like the wind. My 100m, and 400m times were very good, my 110mH and 30mH were school records, etc... I like you even more than I did 5 minutes ago.
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