B-Large Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 +1 To not be impressed with Ryan is crazy, he did a good job all considering... ****, he's 42, he's got lost 30 years to learn what Biden knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Must've been early on, I tuned in late. Everything else I've heard is that they'd cover preexisting conditions; I've heard Romney say repeatedly he'd keep that part of the ACA. Except he won't and tha'ts the point. People don't get this...he won't. He'll keep something similar where if you maintain continuous coverage and lose it you have a 2 month or so window where you can't be denied coming of employer based coverage. That's been the law since '96. If you have preexisting condition and aren't covered...Romney's policy does nothing for you. But that doesn't stop Romney telling you it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 To not be impressed with Ryan is crazy, he did a good job all considering... ****, he's 42, he's got lost 30 years to learn what Biden knows And the Bills defense is good, considering they suck donkey dick. Operative word being "considering". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Only caught a couple minutes in between commercial breaks and after the 1st half of the Steelers/Titans game ended. So I'm not as up to date on this as you guys, cuz um anybody watching a debate when there's an NFL game are losers Biden looks like an angry old guy who blinks alot and Ryan is tripping over his own tongue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ryan's pro-life answer was very good. Smooth, firmly-stated, and personalized. What's the matter Joe, you don't think abortion is funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Biden looks like an angry old guy who blinks alot and Ryan is tripping over his own tongue More or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Except he won't and tha'ts the point. People don't get this...he won't. He'll keep something similar where if you maintain continuous coverage and lose it you have a 2 month or so window where you can't be denied coming of employer based coverage. That's been the law since '96. If you have preexisting condition and aren't covered...Romney's policy does nothing for you. But that doesn't stop Romney telling you it does. So your argument is that Romney's lying, and you know this...because he's a lying liar? Because you can quote one instance where he contradicted himself? Look, I'm not saying that Romney's going to do what he says - the practical matters of both campaigning and crafting legislation and policy in Washington preclude any campaign promise as being binding. But if you're going to argue he's lying, based on just your belief that he's lying...then what's to discuss? (And for the record: I support denying coverage of preexisting conditions.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Interesting, humble Joe talking about religion and abortion is far more compelling than angry Joe interrupting and spouting untruthful talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Biden looks like an angry old guy who blinks alot and Ryan is tripping over his own tongue Pretty much. You're missing some nuance, but you caught the broad strokes. Anyone else hear the crowd tittering when Biden said their Supreme Court picks were "open minded" and unbiased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 "Russia has a different interest than we do, and that's not in our interest" Nice Joe. Is this an example of Biden winning? I don't think there's any chance of this thing changing anything...Biden can't stop being a clown, even when Ryan is talking serious stuff. I don't see how that helps with independents. It may fire up a few liberals who were going to vote for Obama anyway, but he has embarrassed himself. If we were going to have a contentious meeting, and one of my people acted like Biden? Plane ticket home, leave your laptop here. Now Biden is being serious? At the end? Too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 So your argument is that Romney's lying, and you know this...because he's a lying liar? Because you can quote one instance where he contradicted himself? Look, I'm not saying that Romney's going to do what he says - the practical matters of both campaigning and crafting legislation and policy in Washington preclude any campaign promise as being binding. But if you're going to argue he's lying, based on just your belief that he's lying...then what's to discuss? (And for the record: I support denying coverage of preexisting conditions.) That's fine...you don't want to reform healthcare and bring in people. But the point of why he's lying is b/c he gets up on stage and tell the American people he does, then releases a presser the next day to burried on teh back pages say he "mispoke" and he won't do anything. I'm sorry you didn't watch the first debate. It's right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 There he goes again , apparently Biden finds the circumstances in Syria............ THE FUNNIEST THING EVER. The laughing , smiling thing is just plain weird . thank you... I know, if I were Ryan, I would have gotten up and smacked him for his attitude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Ryan needs to develop a sense of humor, and damnit kid, is your face gonna break if you smile.... .?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 That's fine...you don't want to reform healthcare and bring in people. But the point of why he's lying is b/c he gets up on stage and tell the American people he does, then releases a presser the next day to burried on teh back pages say he "mispoke" and he won't do anything. I'm sorry you didn't watch the first debate. It's right there. So just to be clear, that one statement in the debate trumps the multiple other ones I've heard him speak in footage of other campaign stops and on Meet The Press? THAT'S your definition of "lying"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 thank you... I know, if I were Ryan, I would have gotten up and smacked him for his attitude... I'm waiting for Biden to start shaking his fist at Ryan and telling that whippersnapper to get off his lawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 I'm waiting for Biden to start shaking his fist at Ryan and telling that whippersnapper to get off his lawn Get your own jokes, goddammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Could be worse, you could be rooting for Alex Rodriguez to make any contact with a baseball. Speaking of wasting millions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Honesty - I like that answer. That's something we haven't gotten from Uncle Joe all night and Obama for the past 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 LOL...It was good that the moderator calmed Ryan down there, YOU KNOW, in case a candidate got testy for the first time this evening...... What a hack...... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 12, 2012 Author Share Posted October 12, 2012 Detected your frustration Joe? Is that what you call it? This is about leading the country, not your frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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