NastyNateSoldiers Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 When Buddy took over the team he spoke about putting together a big physical team that plays to the blue collar mentality of western NY. He spoke about a big strong armed QB that Can ( throw threw those winds!! ). He laughed at Jauron`s cover 2 Defense. Last But not least he Spoke OF BUILDING THREW THE DRAFT.!! So if we grade those promises after 3 drafts. Big armed QB= F Blue collar Physical team= F Draft= F The Stache Defense awfully reminds me of Juaron`s D= F I`m pretty sure in the real world if anyone had this many failures at work they would be fired. Outside of the first round of the Draft what has this Guy done. His first draft was horrible he reached in the 2nd and 3rd round. T Troup, Carrington. This is the way u start a new era? Instead of drafting Gronk a hometown product that is mismatch from hell. Btw TE was a big area of need for us. In the 3rd round he takes Carrington from a small school. We could of gotten Carrington in the 5th or 6th round. 2011 draft 2nd round pick A Williams, Half of the NFL scouts had this guy projected as a free safety in the NFL. Instead of him we could of taken Brooks Reed, Andy Dalton. 3rd round he takes a mediocre Lb that should have been in the late 4th rounder. Instead of taken a Rocket armed QB like Mallet, or another LB like Justin Houston to help keep building his 3-4 defense. These are just a few examples of Buddy blunders. Point of the Matter is He Gotz to GO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 lots of hindsight and what ifs, and of course the omission of the slew of concerns over the players you listed, but whatever. QB has def been neglected by this regime, I agree on that, the hubris displayed by Nix and Gailey trotting Fitz out there as a "franchise" Qb is unforgivable, but Buddy has added talent to the roster, now we have to find the scheme that allows them to be successful, clearly, something has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 He's no Bill Polian, but a lot of ex bills do good on other teams. The chemistry isn't here yet. They loose there motivation at 1/2 time too easy when the momentum shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 This is 10x worse than any defense Jauron ever put on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 What pissed me off the most about The williams pick, and even the Dareus pick, is that Buddy admitted that he turned down multiple trade offers for those picks. We could have turn those two picks into 6 or more players to help turn this team around. Could you imagine if we took the offer the Falcons threw at the Browns? It was likely even better than what they got. Then to get more picks out of Aaron Williams too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 When Buddy took over the team he spoke about putting together a big physical team that plays to the blue collar mentality of western NY. He spoke about a big strong armed QB that Can ( throw threw those winds!! ). He laughed at Jauron`s cover 2 Defense. Last But not least he Spoke OF BUILDING THREW THE DRAFT.!! So if we grade those promises after 3 drafts. Big armed QB= F Blue collar Physical team= F Draft= F The Stache Defense awfully reminds me of Juaron`s D= F I`m pretty sure in the real world if anyone had this many failures at work they would be fired. Outside of the first round of the Draft what has this Guy done. His first draft was horrible he reached in the 2nd and 3rd round. T Troup, Carrington. This is the way u start a new era? Instead of drafting Gronk a hometown product that is mismatch from hell. Btw TE was a big area of need for us. In the 3rd round he takes Carrington from a small school. We could of gotten Carrington in the 5th or 6th round. 2011 draft 2nd round pick A Williams, Half of the NFL scouts had this guy projected as a free safety in the NFL. Instead of him we could of taken Brooks Reed, Andy Dalton. 3rd round he takes a mediocre Lb that should have been in the late 4th rounder. Instead of taken a Rocket armed QB like Mallet, or another LB like Justin Houston to help keep building his 3-4 defense. These are just a few examples of Buddy blunders. Point of the Matter is He Gotz to GO Chan sold him on Sheppard after the Senior Bowl. I like Martez Wilson (or Mallett). Buddy's problem is that he defers too much to his HC. Time for Buddy to step up and make some moves (like insisting that Fitz must sit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 The problem right now is not Nix/Whaley. I think theyve done a good job at getting talent on the team. The issues right now are: 1. QB 2. Coaching I understand the FO's plan to get the team built up before going after a QB, and I expect them to make a big play for one this next offseason. However, when it comes to upgrading the coaching, we are screwed. And that is completely thanks to Ralph. No matter who Nix wants to hire, or how much money Ralph is willing to spend, a big-time coach will not come to this team which has zero stability. Ralph is living on borrowed time, and once he goes, the whole thing is up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 What pissed me off the most about The williams pick, and even the Dareus pick, is that Buddy admitted that he turned down multiple trade offers for those picks. We could have turn those two picks into 6 or more players to help turn this team around. Could you imagine if we took the offer the Falcons threw at the Browns? It was likely even better than what they got. Then to get more picks out of Aaron Williams too? And yet we always complain the the Bills don't trade up for a high pick. So which is it? You want more picks or high picks? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Chan sold him on Sheppard after the Senior Bowl. I like Martez Wilson (or Mallett). Buddy's problem is that he defers too much to his HC. Time for Buddy to step up and make some moves (like insisting that Fitz must sit). Martez Wilson hasnt exactly lit the league on fire, neither has Mallett (although he has big time potential) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Everyone in the Bills organization must share success or failure, but Buddy Nix has done what he said he would for the most part. No one hits 100% or even 90% on draft picks. Picks like an emerging star in CJ Spiller, Cordy Glenn, Gilmore, Bradham and Dareus are all good to excellent picks. Guys like Justin Rogers, Carrington, Searcy and Moats are all solid picks. The QB situation is more of a Gailey thing I think. He likes his QBs like Fitz or Thigpen. Remember Jay Fiedler? He never would have liked Mallett. The defense is scary bad but it can't be as bad as it looks. They need to get it together now. Hopefully we can evaluate in late December and think more positively about Wannestedt and Mario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Everyone in the Bills organization must share success or failure, but Buddy Nix has done what he said he would for the most part. No one hits 100% or even 90% on draft picks. Picks like an emerging star in CJ Spiller, Cordy Glenn, Gilmore, Bradham and Dareus are all good to excellent picks. Guys like Justin Rogers, Carrington, Searcy and Moats are all solid picks. The QB situation is more of a Gailey thing I think. He likes his QBs like Fitz or Thigpen. Remember Jay Fiedler? He never would have liked Mallett. The defense is scary bad but it can't be as bad as it looks. They need to get it together now. Hopefully we can evaluate in late December and think more positively about Wannestedt and Mario. And what if december comes around and we evaluate and they are as bad as they are now? Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 If the defense is still this bad in late December then some moves need to be made. The main move would probably be around the coaching because its harder to undo big and long contracts. But let's hope the defense isn't as bad as it looks. Let's hope its a work in progress that will improve. This week and game against Arizona will say a lot about where they are going this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) I was sure you would mention an extremely Stubborn GM that refuses to admit he made a mistake with Ryan Fitzpatrick. This is the main reason Fitz is the starter and Buddy and Chan refuse to let any QB compete for the starting job. Eventually Fitz will be dumped after sacrificing the entire season. Anywhere but Buffalo, the GM would be fired. Edited October 8, 2012 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Martez Wilson hasnt exactly lit the league on fire, neither has Mallett (although he has big time potential) martez is playing a lot of defensive end for the saints these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Nix has done a decent job adding talent to the team. We are in year 3 of a massive rebuild. When he took over, this roster resembled an expansion team. I'll give him more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 The problem right now is not Nix/Whaley. I think theyve done a good job at getting talent on the team. The issues right now are: 1. QB 2. Coaching I understand the FO's plan to get the team built up before going after a QB, and I expect them to make a big play for one this next offseason. However, when it comes to upgrading the coaching, we are screwed. And that is completely thanks to Ralph. No matter who Nix wants to hire, or how much money Ralph is willing to spend, a big-time coach will not come to this team which has zero stability. Ralph is living on borrowed time, and once he goes, the whole thing is up in the air. The problem is NIX. Not having a viable #2 quarterback falls squarely on his shoulders. Any other team in the league would have pulled their Quarterback in a situation like yesterday. The defense may have lost the game for the team. But, the offense put up 3 points! They signed another chump who isn't even active for games. yet we have a "kick-off specialist" taking a roster spot. Nix is Gailey's boss he shoulders the blame for Gailey, and the players he assembled. He's an old man who never was a GM before. It shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Truth Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I completely disagree. I actually like Nix and think he has done a good job for the most part. His glaring mistake is Fitzpatrick, which is really bad on his part. Other than that I think he has done a good job assembling talent. I must say I completely am on the side of Buddy when it comes to philosophy. I would curse the TV everytime the Jauron clan would draft an undersized guy. I am much more in support of big bodies who can physically impose themselves. I must say it is a bit puzzling why this team is underachieving so much. It has to be coaching or character. I think talent wise, Buddy has done quite a bit to upgrade the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Nix has done a decent job adding talent to the team. We are in year 3 of a massive rebuild. When he took over, this roster resembled an expansion team. I'll give him more time. Don't other teams usually get a QB first as part of the rebuild? What good does it do to rebuild the entire team and then not have a QB to get the job done? Do you think the plan was build a championship caliber squad and then turn it over to a rookie QB in year 4??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I completely disagree. I actually like Nix and think he has done a good job for the most part. His glaring mistake is Fitzpatrick, which is really bad on his part. Other than that I think he has done a good job assembling talent. I must say I completely am on the side of Buddy when it comes to philosophy. I would curse the TV everytime the Jauron clan would draft an undersized guy. I am much more in support of big bodies who can physically impose themselves. I must say it is a bit puzzling why this team is underachieving so much. It has to be coaching or character. I think talent wise, Buddy has done quite a bit to upgrade the team. The DT fell in his hands. Really he had to take dareus. Look closely who has stuck with the team in his drafts. Then look at who he drafted, is still on the roster, and what they are contributing. it's not as good as one would think. We don't even have a single NFL linebacker. barnett included. Nix's greatest success building this team has been hitting on a couple of dumpster dive talents in 2011. They currently play on the o-line when not injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I disagree with the OP in that I don't think Buddy Nix is the problem. In fact, I think he has done an exceptional job in his role as GM. I will say, however, that I thought it was a huge mistake to draft Aaron Williams over Brooks Reed. Brooks Reed was a no-brainer pick IMO, and I was absolutely stunned when Williams' name was called. That being said...hindsight is 20-20....yada yada. I think the writing is on the wall regarding the QB situation. I suspect you will find that Buddy and Whaley will make upgrading the QB position the #1 priority this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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