KD in CA Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Braves being robbed by one of the worst calls I've ever seen, in what appears to be Chipper's final game. And naturally a classy response from Atlanta fans.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Not as sexy since the word "replacement" isn't involved, but that's one of the worst calls I've ever seen. I've been watching baseball for 17 years. Haven't seen an infield fly called within even 20 feet of that proximity.
section122 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Wow I came here to start a playoffs thread just for this reason. My sister is a huge braves fan and all I could text her was "now you know what it's like to be a bills fan". Indefensibly bad call. Edit: kd that was a perfectly legit response by those fans IMO. Edited October 6, 2012 by section122
Rob's House Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 !@#$ baseball. This single game "playoff" is retarded. It was bad enough having best of 5 playoffs. One game in baseball? Might as well flip a coin. Bud Selig is ruining the game.
ajzepp Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 !@#$ baseball. This single game "playoff" is retarded. It was bad enough having best of 5 playoffs. One game in baseball? Might as well flip a coin. Bud Selig is ruining the game. Im not only saying this because I'm a Braves fan, but I totally agree about this one game crap. There is a reason why playoffs in baseball are series'....I'm not enough of a baseball fan to be a "traditionalist", but it's hard for me to believe that anyone who falls under that heading could have anything but disdain for this format. As for that call today, it was one of the worst I've ever seen. 2nd and 3rd with two outs is TOTALLY different than bases loaded with one out. We did plenty to ruin our chances today with all these idiotic infield "throws", but this call should have never been made. Lastly, this is the most passion I've seen from Atlanta fans, so it's ironic that the passion would be in the form of classless behavior. Atlanta fans are fugtards.
Rob's House Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Other than throwing stuff on the field, what did the fans do that was so offensive? I didn't see it, but I imagine after following a 162 game season to see your team eliminated in a one game sham of a playoff, on a call that makes the Golden Tate catch look reasonable by comparison, I don't blame the fans for being pissed.
ajzepp Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Some of them were throwing glass bottles directly at the umpire/players from what they said on the broadcast. I just don't like Atlanta fans in general.
boyst Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XlxfuGCsbM It'll get pulled before too long, but here it is...MLB will have it down by midnight.
Maury Ballstein Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Can't believe he orioles are pulling off the W. Baseball talk time where's my sf giants fans at ? Cueto vs Cain Reds vs giants gonnal be tough
bbb Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 !@#$ baseball. This single game "playoff" is retarded. It was bad enough having best of 5 playoffs. One game in baseball? Might as well flip a coin. Bud Selig is ruining the game. I totally disagree. You don't want to be in this one game wild card - win your division.........That is why I was dialed into every Yankee game the last 6 weeks. Which is when I usually tune out because they have at least the wild card sewn up, and there was never much difference between the wild card and the division. Now, it gives more teams a chance to get in, and it makes the division championship mean so much more. What is there to complain about?
ajzepp Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 bbb, what if one team happens to have one of the league's top aces, and even though they'd struggle in a series - even a best of three series - for that one game their entire team can ride into the playoffs on the back of one guy? I think that's potentially my biggest issues with it, even though that wasn't the situation today. I just think that baseball should always be a series format, personally....even just a best of 3.
Rico Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I'm OK with the extra WC game. I did think it was kinda weird seeing the O's break out the champagne after winning it tonight, but whatever.
ajzepp Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I'm OK with the extra WC game. I did think it was kinda weird seeing the O's break out the champagne after winning it tonight, but whatever. It did look a bit weird, I agree...basically all they accomplished was winning game 1 of a best of 8.
SHOUTBOX MONSTER! Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 It did look a bit weird, I agree...basically all they accomplished was winning game 1 of a best of 8. Every other club had a chance to celebrate making the playoffs. The O's didn't. They were on a plane heading to Florida when they found out. So I'm all for letting them crack a bit of bubbly for the first time in 15 years.
PaattMaann Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I dont HATE the one game format, but I think a best of three would make the most sense (and think this is where they will be headed), it adds an extra four days to the playoffs (start a day or two earlier in april or tweak the schedule and problem solved) and will eliminate any nonsense with that said, Im gonna have to disagree about the bad call...it was a LATE call, but I think the ump called the rule as it should have been called, the shortstop was set up under the ball (he wasent, but thats certainly what it looked like to the ump) so thats IFR....flip side, say the ump didnt call it and the runners got doubled up, their would be outcries on the opposite side of the call....the bottom line is the braves had ample opportunity to win that game outright (chipper with the costly error, leaving RISP on more than two occasions late in the game)...they just didnt get it done
Ramius Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 At first i thought the call was horrific, but i just watched the MLB Network and Harold Reynolds had an excellent breakdown of the call. He showed some film from earlier this year where the infield fly was called in basically the same spot. He said the umps look for when the ball is at its highest point, then check to see if the infielder is "under control" before calling the infield fly. Both of these cases were true in last nights game. Now the depth of the call was an issue, but Reynolds breakdown really changed my mind. As for the wildcard, i don't mind it. Baseball has a long storied history of a single game playoff to break a tie, so why not for a wildcard spot? To the traditionalists, this actually makes the winning your division more important, since you avoid the playoff. Furthermore, (and i think this is important), this prevents a wildcard from setting their rotation for the ALDS. lots of times the WC team with strong pitching had an advantage in a short series. With the play-in, you've gotta be all hands on deck, which benefits the teams that have already won their division. I do however, hate the new format, where the lower seed gets the first 2 at home before the final 3 at the higher seed's park. This gives too much of an early advantage to the lower seed.
stevestojan Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) You really think adding more games will make people happy and avoid controversy? Signed, Steve Bartman & Bill Buckner, both of who made their blunders in game 6 and no one remembers game 7. Edited October 6, 2012 by stevestojan
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 At first i thought the call was horrific, but i just watched the MLB Network and Harold Reynolds had an excellent breakdown of the call. He showed some film from earlier this year where the infield fly was called in basically the same spot. He said the umps look for when the ball is at its highest point, then check to see if the infielder is "under control" before calling the infield fly. Both of these cases were true in last nights game. Now the depth of the call was an issue, but Reynolds breakdown really changed my mind. . I think it's BS strictly because of the depth. From that point on the field, the shortstop doesn't have nearly enough time to intentionally drop the ball, throw to third, and then the 3B throw to 2B to complete the double play. That's the spirit of the rule - to prevent cheap double plays. The ball landed 225 feet from home plate. That's the outfield.
Chef Jim Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 I have not seen the play yet but that's one of the reasons why I think a one game playoff is dumb.
millbank Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Got to be tough on a team like Rangers to end their run with a one and out.... would like to see at least a best two of three, even five, this would allow front runners the privilege of rest before playoffs , getting rotations in order ect, this the reward for doing well.
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