xsoldier54 Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Some people secretly/subconsciously want to be miserable, too bad most of them are on sites like this. I beg to differ. I am a very happy man. I am very satisfied with my job, my family and life in general. I am not, however even close to being satisfied with the football team that I have chosen to follow for the past 50 + years. That was an embarrassment on Sunday and it was the second time in two tries against division opponents that this team has been thoroughly embarrassed. It is not just one game, it is a pattern of ineptness over a number of years and it is very disheartening to watch. It would have been different if they even put up a fight, but it was obvious in the second half, that NE could score whenever they wanted. They were toying with this team and laughing at them. I just wish this team would grow some pride and refuse to be beaten. I wouldn't even know where to begin to fix this team, it is so badly broken. I would have to start with the coaching staff though. There is no excuse for being as clueless as the Bills have been against division opponents since Gailey and company have taken charge. Secretly wanting to be miserable? Not even close. I would love nothing more than to be able to come on this forum and talk about what a good job these guys are doing. They have to earn that though and they ain't even in the ballpark. I guess the NFL should cancel the last 3/4 of the schedule if the season is over. Two bad halfs of football do not constitute a season, no matter how bad they were. It would save Bills fans a lot of agony if they did. This team has shown that they are going nowhere and will not be able to compete with any team that is better than average. May as well not show up if you're going to play the way they did Sunday. Cancelling doesn't sound like a bad option at this point. They would lose each game by 7-0. That is a hell of a lot better than giving up 100 + points to division opponents in only two games.
MDH Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I could not disagree more. Choice is far far better than either Spiller or FredEx was on Sunday. Gailey showed just how desperate he was by playing them Sunday and just how unwilling to acknowledge his mistake but using Choice once it was evident that both Spiller and Jackson were too injured to be effective. Jackson might not have been great running the ball (though the OL was horrible for both Spiller and Jackson) but he made two crucial third and long plays to extend drives that ended up in TDs. Without those plays the Bills send up punting on those drives.
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I went to the game and was sickened just like everyone else, but it truly is only one game. It is doubtful if we get to first place in our division, but it is a long season and there are lots of things that can happen. I think Spiller and Jackson in the backfield are still really dangerous and the defense will watch film of this and improve if not a whole bunch. I know we are all delusional as Bills fans but let's see what is REALLY going on here. Every single thread on this board will be related to the draft by the time November gets here. Thses guys can't even COMPETE (let alone win) against a divisional team. Tell me how the Bills are going to have a better record than: Patriots Ravens Texans Broncos Steelers Chargers Bengals
Coach Tuesday Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 The fact is that there will be nothing for this fanbase to truly get excited about until the ownership of the team changes hands. I wish that weren't the case, but it is.
BuffBill Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I went to the game and was sickened just like everyone else, but it truly is only one game. It is doubtful if we get to first place in our division, but it is a long season and there are lots of things that can happen. I think Spiller and Jackson in the backfield are still really dangerous and the defense will watch film of this and improve if not a whole bunch. They weren't just two games we got blown out, they were two divisional games we got blown out, and one of them was against a team that isn't very good in the Jets. Never gonna do anything successful if you can't win in the division since almost half of your games are against them. They are 2-12 under Gailey in the division, that is pitiful, especially considering how bad MIami has been the majority of Gailey's tenure here.
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Except...it's two games, against solid division rivals, where we were absolutely humiliated. It's not that we lost that bothers me, it's HOW we lost - absolute blow-out spanking, without coaching adjustments to account for things that absolutely were not working. I am hopeful - and even I am bummed. If it ain't workin', stick with it.
CodeMonkey Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Jackson might not have been great running the ball (though the OL was horrible for both Spiller and Jackson) but he made two crucial third and long plays to extend drives that ended up in TDs. Without those plays the Bills send up punting on those drives. Fred: 13 attempts, 29 yards and 3 receptions for 50 yards which isn't bad. CJ: 8 attempts, 33 yards and 2 receptions for 5 yards. Should not have been out there and the Bills are very lucky they didn't lose one or both of them for the season.
tennesseeboy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 45 unanswered points after taking a 21-7 lead is pretty hard to stomach. The Jets wiping us up as if they were the reigning superbowl champs is hard to take. Yeah...we beat two pretty weak non-divisional sisters. I'm going to be very interested in seeing whether we come back and at least play a respectable game next week. Nine wins, chan..nine wins.
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Some people secretly/subconsciously want to be miserable, too bad most of them are on sites like this. So the take away is that people that settle for 3rd or 4th in the AFC East year in and year out and are happy drafting in the top 12 every year are secretly/subconsciously elated and merry. It's not just settling for inferiority, it's actually a thrill ride. PS: I was one of the few people after this last debacle that posted here and suggested that some of the Bills problems might be correctable, btw. The thought was scoffed and laughed at, but I did and do believe some of the coaching failures can be fixed. I'm not suggesting that it is likely however.
bmur66 Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 It's been 40 years since a professional football team has given up 45 points in one half. Settle a bit? Yea right.
Dude Man Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I beg to differ. I am a very happy man. I am very satisfied with my job, my family and life in general. I am not, however even close to being satisfied with the football team that I have chosen to follow for the past 50 + years. That was an embarrassment on Sunday and it was the second time in two tries against division opponents that this team has been thoroughly embarrassed. It is not just one game, it is a pattern of ineptness over a number of years and it is very disheartening to watch. It would have been different if they even put up a fight, but it was obvious in the second half, that NE could score whenever they wanted. They were toying with this team and laughing at them. I just wish this team would grow some pride and refuse to be beaten. I wouldn't even know where to begin to fix this team, it is so badly broken. I would have to start with the coaching staff though. There is no excuse for being as clueless as the Bills have been against division opponents since Gailey and company have taken charge. Secretly wanting to be miserable? Not even close. I would love nothing more than to be able to come on this forum and talk about what a good job these guys are doing. They have to earn that though and they ain't even in the ballpark. It would save Bills fans a lot of agony if they did. This team has shown that they are going nowhere and will not be able to compete with any team that is better than average. May as well not show up if you're going to play the way they did Sunday. Cancelling doesn't sound like a bad option at this point. They would lose each game by 7-0. That is a hell of a lot better than giving up 100 + points to division opponents in only two games. This might be the most intelligent thing I have ever read on this board and I couldn't agree more.
qwksilver Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) It's only been 12+ years of bad football. No reason to think those 2 ugly losses to division rivals means anything. Plus Gailey said he is OKAY w Stache's game plan? Well that's really good news. Edited October 2, 2012 by qwksilver
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I understand what the OP was trying to get at. Sunday and Monday i was just pissed at the game and way the Bills played. Today i started to think about some of the positives. Gilmore had some nice pass defended- he will only get better. Fitz to jackson for the long gainer was a nice wrinkle. I could say more but i am sure each thing i point out will be countered by a negative opposite play. Trust me i think this team has completely under achieved pre-season expectations. And i am not sure if Chan and Wanny can right the ship, but i am still going to watch. IF they can win one of the next two and be 3-3 after the first 6 then they got a shot. I remember in the preseason many of us thought this way. So, here the Bills are at 2-2, with a shot at 3-3.
Nervous Guy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Seriously, who really thought we could win the division? I'd be very very happy with a wild card spot, and anyone who actually thought we were ready to overtake the Pats is delusional. I know we are all delusional as Bills fans but let's see what is REALLY going on here. Every single thread on this board will be related to the draft by the time November gets here. Thses guys can't even COMPETE (let alone win) against a divisional team. Tell me how the Bills are going to have a better record than: Patriots Ravens Texans Broncos Steelers Chargers Bengals I could see us overtaking any of the last 4 teams in that list...especially the Bengals.
RevWarRifleman Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 A few thoughts about the topic of the post. (Or, "The More Things Seem to Change With the Bills, the Results Are the Same") Logical, I understand your reasoning, but we've all seen & heard this the last 12 years, man. A.This team is not going to go very far with this defense unless there's HUGE improvement during the season! From where I stand, there's a few reasons for this: We have a D coordinator that doesn't (can't?) make adjustments on-the-fly during a game, which is a must for any NFL coach. Other teams know our LB corps & D backfield is average and therefore can be exploited. The D line is not collapsing the pocket enough. This hardly makes for a "tough" defense "Played by tough people." Chan, I'm looking at you. B. There seems to be a lack of fire & team leadership, especially when things are going bad. Are there players walking up & down the bench firing guys up when our opponents have gained the momentum? Doesn't seem so to me. This lack of guts attitude is reflected on the field: Fumbles/intercepts when we do have the momentum. A bonehead penalty that gives the other team another chance. We get a turnover & we don't go for the home run strike on the first offensive play. This is not "tough", go-for-the- jugular play. Therefore, the team lacks an identity. Year in & year out, it just floats along, like a boat w/ no rudder, "trying" to win games. Result? 12 years of average to below average seasons. No matter who the players are, no matter who the coaches are, the result is always the same: a malaise. C.So finally, Logical, I understand your point. There's still 75% of the season left and a lot can happen, and I hope it does! A lot of us Bills fans are uneasy because we've seen this act again & again. We're 3 years now into the Nix/Gailey regime.Pretty much all of the marbles are supposed to be in place, and already we're showing we can't beat teams in our own division.
mattsox Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I have heard this line at least once a year for the last 10 years. It's getting, sorry, gotten old. Agreed. Tried to be optimistic with the offseason moves, but instead we got Buffaloed. Nothing has changed. The Bills are still a bad football team. Good teams don't lose 52-28, sorry folks....
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Seriously, who really thought we could win the division? I'd be very very happy with a wild card spot, and anyone who actually thought we were ready to overtake the Pats is delusional. I could see us overtaking any of the last 4 teams in that list...especially the Bengals. Well they definitely have to pass 2 of them and if you look at some of the schedules, good luck.
CT Bills backer Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I am still an optimist and feel that several teams that look unbeatable can be beaten (MN over SF, OAK over PIT in week 3) Patriots have had our number for many many years so a loss like this is not that troubling. Jets look like they are taking a nosedive and we still haven't even played Miami yet. On the other hand, if Fitz can't throw long, why can't they try someone else for a play (maybe Brad Smith)
PS 56 Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 How about 10 years of crappy football? People have every right to complain about this team. There should be no excuses and yet even after an embarrising loss people come on here and say it's only 2 games or the season is long. It's been over a decade and we should demand better. Absolutey....
Nervous Guy Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 This lack of guts attitude is reflected on the field: We get a turnover & we don't go for the home run strike on the first offensive play. This is not "tough", go-for-the- jugular play. I actually think we did do that exact thing on one of Chandlers touchdowns, the second one? Maybe I'm misremembering, but in general, I agree, we rarely do that.
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