Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Why do people want the Pats to be injured? I want to see them at full strength so that we can really see what the Bills are made of. If they can beat a full strength Pats team then what's the excuse for not making a run at the SB? I don't want to win because the other team stinks. I want to win because the Bills play great. JMO In this League you take any advantage you get bc if we beat them weak and that gets us into the playoffs it is better than we lose to them if there good and we miss. the only thing that matters is winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 the only thing that matters is winning. +1 I'll take wins against HS teams if it means making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Uh oh, Brady. Lets not start sucking each others dicks yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 It doesn't matter if Volmeer or Mankin play. So funny when you think about it, but now the the regular officials are back, let's remember they like to play favorites during games, and of course, no one is allowed any where near Brady... Yeah, the replacements were really bad, but at least they were equally bad to both teams.... THAT would never happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Just saw the TV news in Boston. Pats are confident because they always beat the Bills. Keep thinking that guys. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 When the drs scoped thurmans knee they determined the damage didntn require reconstruction, which mankins did have after the super bowl. So… playing without an ACL is harder or easier than playing with a damaged one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 So… playing without an ACL is harder or easier than playing with a damaged one? idk, did Thurman not have one, or did they just decide not to reconstruct after having a look? I thought the latter. But whatever he seemed Ok for a whole career until another knee injury in Miami that ended it, whereas Mankins required surgery to keep playing. also, fwiw Schefter thinks what Mankins did was likely unprecedented: "Schefter adds that Mankins may be the only player in NFL history to have played an entire season with a torn ACL." http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4729269/schefter-mankins-had-torn-acl-all-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 idk, did Thurman not have one, or did they just decide not to reconstruct after having a look? I thought the latter. But whatever he seemed Ok for a whole career until another knee injury in Miami that ended it, whereas Mankins required surgery to keep playing. also, fwiw Schefter thinks what Mankins did was likely unprecedented: "Schefter adds that Mankins may be the only player in NFL history to have played an entire season with a torn ACL." http://espn.go.com/b...-acl-all-season Well it's rare to play without one also… but of the three noteworthy individuals that did, two of them are in the Hall of Fame and one might be… Thurman Thomas, John Elway, and Hines Ward. Interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) It's still not clear to me TT didn't have one. per my recollection (which can certainly be wrong), I thought they had a look, did some orthroscopic work, and decided to leave everything else alone in there because it looked plenty stable without needing a total reconstruct. In Mankins case the point being made is he had nothing done ... no othroscopic, nothing, didn't even know it was fully torn ... other than self-administered ice and aspirin, he just kept playing on it. Edited September 30, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Thurman Thomas is irrelevant at this point. The discussion is about playing with a damaged ACL vs playing entirely without one. John Elway and Hines Ward played without ACLs. I'm not sure what it means but it sure is damn interesting. Makes you wonder how many (if any) relatively anonymous players played without ACLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 In this League you take any advantage you get bc if we beat them weak and that gets us into the playoffs it is better than we lose to them if there good and we miss. the only thing that matters is winning. Yes! There are no footnotes in standings. Putting the Pats into a 1-3 hole is the sort of stuff playoff runs are made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Bills fan Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Uh, can you kinda warn me before it is time? (I'd like to leave you boys alone for that one.) Lets not start sucking each others dicks yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Uh, can you kinda warn me before it is time? (I'd like to leave you boys alone for that one.) QFMFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Just saw the TV news in Boston. Pats are confident because they always beat the Bills. Keep thinking that guys. PTR Were you confident the Bills would beat Miami in the early 1990's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) In this League you take any advantage you get bc if we beat them weak and that gets us into the playoffs it is better than we lose to them if there good and we miss. the only thing that matters is winning. Exactly. Bills aren't at full strength with Jackson and Spiller injured. Edited September 30, 2012 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Holy cow....do you guys ever sleep? Posts between 2:30 and 5AM. San Hose, probably 11:30 for you when it's 2:30 for me. OK, I hope Kyle, Marcel, Mario and Mark didn't stay up that late. Need them fresh and ready to role. Ever watch the old Tom & Jerry cartoons? The ones where Tom gets tangled up with a dog? The dog and Tom disappear into a cloud of dust. You hear a bunch of smacking, banging, clanking and clonking noises. Every once in a while you see Tom's head come out of the cloud, each time his face is messed up a little bit more but the dog reaches out and yanks poor Tom back into the cloud. I woke up this morning with visions of Tom disappearing into a cloud of dust. Only it wasn't Tom Cat. It was Tom Brady. How many sacks? 5, 6, 8, 9?................11, 12? Ok, 12 is probably stretching it. Edited September 30, 2012 by Rockinon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Mankins being out is big. Attack D-line, attack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Looking for our D line to do some damage today. That, and Stevie and his cohorts hang on to the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 Looking for our D line to do some damage today. That, and Stevie and his cohorts hang on to the ball. Mix in a little T. Choice. Line up CJ as a receiver to draw coverage. I'm thinking we dominate this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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