Max Fischer Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Have you figured out why the polls are wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Have you figured out why the polls are wrong? Yes, they're "oversampling" Democrats - er, Republicans...um, polls just suck! It's quite fun to watch, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Yes, they're "oversampling" Democrats - er, Republicans...um, polls just suck! It's quite fun to watch, actually. Rasmussen is biased!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Have you figured out why the polls are wrong? Well, I don't know anymore. Perhaps you can explain. 1. How is Romney winning Rs and Is, losing Ds....but also losing overall in Ohio by 10pts, at the same time, in the same poll? Hey take a shot at it, you'd be the first to try to explain why...for the first time ever....a candidate's performance with Is, in swing states, has become...irrelevant. 2. Where is the "Obama crushing Romney with Independents" story? Wouldn't that be news? Didn't we see 1000s of stories about Obama winning INDs in 2008? So....isn't it reasonable...to expect those stories right now, if Obama was indeed winning overall? Again, behavior, not polls, is where it's at. Why aren't we seeing these stories, if they could be supported? 3. Perhaps you can explain why Republican registration is up, in many cases by double digits, in every swing state, while Democratic registration is down, some by double digits(3 biggest Democratic counties in Ohio for example)...yet D turnout, in these polls, is expected to be > 2008, while R turnout is expected to be <= 2008? I mean at this point, somebody has to try and explain the...statistical phenomena...that we are going to see in this coming election, according to these polls, right? Why can't that be you? 4. While you're at it, please explain how Romney, who has already registered 240k more R voters in FL than McCain( who lost to Obama by 200k votes there in 2008), is down by 9 points there, while, again, winning with Is? More, amazing...phenomena, right? I hope you can do it, because you'd be the ONLY person who even tried. Using Obama increasing turnout in 25% of the electorate(minorities) is going to wallop Romney improving turnout in 75%(whites)in your explanation? Not a good plan. Especially when early voting/registration already indicates that minority/youth votes turnout will be significantly less than 2008, while white voting will be >. But then, there's always calling us all racists, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 O'Reilly posits that Americans are addicted to the internet and do not know the issues therefore the polls are wrong. He has it figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Have you figured out why the polls are wrong? Awwww, are you upset with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity making fun of your man crush? How pissed are you at Howard Stern?... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJbOU4nmHQ&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 O'Reilly posits that Americans are addicted to the internet and do not know the issues therefore the polls are wrong. He has it figured out. I love how leftys talk smack about talk radio and dittoheads etc. Meanwhile the leftys are the ones who always seem to be the ones talking about what Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc are up to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I love how leftys talk smack about talk radio and dittoheads etc. Meanwhile the leftys are the ones who always seem to be the ones talking about what Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc are up to What's your point? I watch O'Reilly. Therefore I talk about O'Reilly. And he's hilarious about "the internet" has been forever. He talks about it as if it's a video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 What's your point? I watch O'Reilly. Therefore I talk about O'Reilly. And he's hilarious about "the internet" has been forever. He talks about it as if it's a video game. There can be little doubt that O'Reilly simply doesn't get the internet. In that, he is very like a liberal talking about guns. Neither truly understand the tool they are talking about, because neither have any real experience with said tool. Both wrongly believe that just because they can't understand what other people are doing with the tool, that makes it OK to devalue what they are doing. And, both want to point to 1% of people doing bad things with the tool, while 99% of us are doing good things with it....because they don't value, or devalue our use. Hence they create convenient scenarios....that have all gun owners as rednecks who are careless with their weapons and ammo, and all internet business...as social media triviality, porn, selling junk, or trying to steal data. Then, they try to fit all news about these tools...into their scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck_dodgers007 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Dick Morris was on Hannity screaming about how we were attacked by terrorists this 9-11, and how attacking us on 9-11 was such an insult and that when Bush was president we never saw things like being attacked on 9-11! Too funny! Conservatives are addicted to the talk radio garbage, ignorant trash make believe land of no government except to stop abortions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I love how leftys talk smack about talk radio and dittoheads etc. Meanwhile the leftys are the ones who always seem to be the ones talking about what Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc are up to i rarely listen to or watch them. used to listen to beck but the local talk radio station dropped him presumably because he was too expensive. the thing i can't figure out is if they really believe there own nonsense. it's funny enough if they don't but hilarious if they do. and then when something obviously over the line is said (which happens quite often) guys in the chorus here say "they're just entertainers" while quoting them like scripture the rest of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Given this: I love how leftys talk smack about talk radio and dittoheads etc. Meanwhile the leftys are the ones who always seem to be the ones talking about what Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, etc are up to You don't find this: Dick Morris was on Hannity screaming about how we were attacked by terrorists this 9-11, and how attacking us on 9-11 was such an insult and that when Bush was president we never saw things like being attacked on 9-11! Too funny! Conservatives are addicted to the talk radio garbage, ignorant trash make believe land of no government except to stop abortions even the slightest bit ironic...do you? I mean...it's on the same page, only a few posts away. It's not like this was 20 pages ago or something. I suppose hypno is happy, having you confirm his statement and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Conservatives are addicted to the talk radio garbage, ignorant trash make believe land of no government except to stop abortions Progressives would be addicted to their own talk radio garbage if only you could put something on the air that wouldn't go bankrupt. Air America! !@#$ yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Progressives would be addicted to their own talk radio garbage if only you could put something on the air that wouldn't go bankrupt. Air America! !@#$ yeah! Won't happen. They don't get that Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer first. Instead, they tried to do hateful diatribe...with sarcasm, not humor, as decoration. Rush does humor...and for many, information, first....with hateful diatribe as a decoration. That was the clear cut difference between Rush and Air America. The average person will come away from a Rush show having learned something, like what the Fed does, or, a faster, more effective way of explaining what the Fed does. I spent hours listening to Air America(for the same reason I watch MSNBC = I have 0 fear of hearing what I may not agree with) I never learned a thing. In fact, I often felt the urge to call them, and explain what the Fed does, if nothing else...just to keep the show going. I often thought "now I know what John Densmore(Doors drummer) must have felt like...lets go guys...this song has to end sometime". Chris Matthews has been hysterical this week...but only for people like me....who like to do our own version of Mystery Science Theater with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Won't happen. They don't get that Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer first. Instead, they tried to do hateful diatribe...with sarcasm, not humor, as decoration. Rush does humor...and for many, information, first....with hateful diatribe as a decoration. That was the clear cut difference between Rush and Air America. The average person will come away from a Rush show having learned something, like what the Fed does, or, a faster, more effective way of explaining what the Fed does. I spent hours listening to Air America(for the same reason I watch MSNBC = I have 0 fear of hearing what I may not agree with) I never learned a thing. In fact, I often felt the urge to call them, and explain what the Fed does, if nothing else...just to keep the show going. I often thought "now I know what John Densmore(Doors drummer) must have felt like...lets go guys...this song has to end sometime". Chris Matthews has been hysterical this week...but only for people like me....who like to do our own version of Mystery Science Theater with it. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted September 28, 2012 Author Share Posted September 28, 2012 Well, I don't know anymore. Perhaps you can explain. 1. How is Romney winning Rs and Is, losing Ds....but also losing overall in Ohio by 10pts, at the same time, in the same poll? Hey take a shot at it, you'd be the first to try to explain why...for the first time ever....a candidate's performance with Is, in swing states, has become...irrelevant. 2. Where is the "Obama crushing Romney with Independents" story? Wouldn't that be news? Didn't we see 1000s of stories about Obama winning INDs in 2008? So....isn't it reasonable...to expect those stories right now, if Obama was indeed winning overall? Again, behavior, not polls, is where it's at. Why aren't we seeing these stories, if they could be supported? 3. Perhaps you can explain why Republican registration is up, in many cases by double digits, in every swing state, while Democratic registration is down, some by double digits(3 biggest Democratic counties in Ohio for example)...yet D turnout, in these polls, is expected to be > 2008, while R turnout is expected to be <= 2008? I mean at this point, somebody has to try and explain the...statistical phenomena...that we are going to see in this coming election, according to these polls, right? Why can't that be you? 4. While you're at it, please explain how Romney, who has already registered 240k more R voters in FL than McCain( who lost to Obama by 200k votes there in 2008), is down by 9 points there, while, again, winning with Is? More, amazing...phenomena, right? I hope you can do it, because you'd be the ONLY person who even tried. Using Obama increasing turnout in 25% of the electorate(minorities) is going to wallop Romney improving turnout in 75%(whites)in your explanation? Not a good plan. Especially when early voting/registration already indicates that minority/youth votes turnout will be significantly less than 2008, while white voting will be >. But then, there's always calling us all racists, right? You seem to think losing is pretty funny. Good luck with your fantasy world - while it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 You seem to think losing is pretty funny. Good luck with your fantasy world - while it lasts. Well, I see you come here to contribute your special brand of enlightenment and meaty discussion. No Snooky on tv right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Well, I don't know anymore. Perhaps you can explain. 1. How is Romney winning Rs and Is, losing Ds....but also losing overall in Ohio by 10pts, at the same time, in the same poll? Hey take a shot at it, you'd be the first to try to explain why...for the first time ever....a candidate's performance with Is, in swing states, has become...irrelevant. 2. Where is the "Obama crushing Romney with Independents" story? Wouldn't that be news? Didn't we see 1000s of stories about Obama winning INDs in 2008? So....isn't it reasonable...to expect those stories right now, if Obama was indeed winning overall? Again, behavior, not polls, is where it's at. Why aren't we seeing these stories, if they could be supported? 3. Perhaps you can explain why Republican registration is up, in many cases by double digits, in every swing state, while Democratic registration is down, some by double digits(3 biggest Democratic counties in Ohio for example)...yet D turnout, in these polls, is expected to be > 2008, while R turnout is expected to be <= 2008? I mean at this point, somebody has to try and explain the...statistical phenomena...that we are going to see in this coming election, according to these polls, right? Why can't that be you? 4. While you're at it, please explain how Romney, who has already registered 240k more R voters in FL than McCain( who lost to Obama by 200k votes there in 2008), is down by 9 points there, while, again, winning with Is? More, amazing...phenomena, right? I hope you can do it, because you'd be the ONLY person who even tried. Using Obama increasing turnout in 25% of the electorate(minorities) is going to wallop Romney improving turnout in 75%(whites)in your explanation? Not a good plan. Especially when early voting/registration already indicates that minority/youth votes turnout will be significantly less than 2008, while white voting will be >. But then, there's always calling us all racists, right? I hope they keep it up right to the election. I can't fathom that they really believe it will discourage the Republican voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Howard Stern exposed his what? Ignorance? ButtaFace? Love for little boys? he denigrates women, mentally retarded people, vertically challenged people etc etc He's just another clown looking for attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Howard Stern exposed his what? Ignorance? ButtaFace? Love for little boys? he denigrates women, mentally retarded people, vertically challenged people etc etc He's just another clown looking for attention Certainly you would be an expert on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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