TakeYouToTasker Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 The NFL, which is the only sanctioning body that matters in this particular instance, agrees with me; not you. I find it peculiar that you claim to love the sport but have no compassion for the men who play it; or respect for the rules that govern it. Why is it so hard for you to come out and say that you get great enjoyment from watching other human beings suffer repeated blunt force head trauma?
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Not sure what some of you were looking at but if you watch the video at the point of impact Tate's head is clearly up, he's basically looking into the eyes of Lee. He does spring up but that's because he's exploding into the block. He didn't leap at or launch himself at Lee. IMO, it becomes far worse because of the angles. Tate was at the perfect angle to "de-cleat" him and I don't think Lee ever saw it coming. I have a little experience in this type of hit because I was knocked unconcious during a game in high school on essentially the same type of play. I never saw the guy coming and with those angles I was propelled up and backwards several feet. I woke up on the ground with my coach standing over me saying "are you ok" to which I responded "I don't know, what happened". It didn't hurt that much, I just remember getting jacked up. I'd place this more along the lines of "hitting a defenseless WR". Edited September 20, 2012 by Mike in Syracuse
rafter Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I think the celebration after he looked over and saw Lee hurt was worth fining him over.
Dorkington Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 He lead with his helmet, and intentionally launched upwards for the impact. Neither were necessary to take the player out of the play. It was clearly a hard hit with the sole purpose of causing damage. It was fun to watch, but illegal.
tombstone56 Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 THE reality of it is,,,its bad press ..publicly they will chastize him but wait till it shows up on next years highlight films... total hippocrites !!!
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Something tells me that if this were a block that Stevie had put on any Jet or NE player we'd all be talking about what an amazing, and legal, block it was. Didn't Drew Bledsoe do they exact same thing a few years ago in a home opener?
CBD Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) I don't think it matters that he led with his head, they made these types of blocks illegal a couple years ago thanks to Hines Ward. "The blocking rule makes illegal a blindside block if it comes from the blocker's helmet, forearm or shoulder and lands to the head or neck area of the defender. One of the highlights the NFL competition committee used to portray such a block was the one Ward threw last season that broke the jaw of Cincinnati rookie linebacker Keith Rivers." Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/breaking/nfl-approves-hines-ward-rule-335030/#ixzz270z6Ptor Edited September 20, 2012 by Carey Bender
boyst Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Not a bad hit. Not dirty. Its football. This is exactly what you're coached to do. Its the old fashioned pancake. If I had money id pay golden tate $21k.
Booger Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 It amazes me that anyone can defend this as a "legal" hit. The guy was fined by the NFL for crying out loud...and a hefty amount at that. I do believe the celebration dance after the hit may have tacked on 10-15k or so, but that does not take away from the fact the hit was illegal. He clearly left his feet in an attempt to deliver this type of hit. I understand this is the NFL, but put yourself in their shoes. A needless, senseless block of this type could ruin a players career, or even worse, their life after football. What is nuts is that if this was against a Buffalo Bill everyone on here would be calling for Golden Tate to be kicked out of the league. Plain and simple it was a dirty hit. He could have accomplished the block without launching himself and could have lessened the risk of injuring Lee (and also himself) tremendously. He is 6 inches away from hitting Lee in the helmet and most likely concussing him and probably himself. I know one would say "but he didn't" and the NFL knows that as well. Their take is that everything moves so fast, a 6 inch mistake is the difference of someone getting up or someone possibly never being able to walk again. No need for this in the game PERIOD
billsFORlife50 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 The NFL, which is the only sanctioning body that matters in this particular instance, agrees with me; not you. I find it peculiar that you claim to love the sport but have no compassion for the men who play it; or respect for the rules that govern it. Why is it so hard for you to come out and say that you get great enjoyment from watching other human beings suffer repeated blunt force head trauma? So you don't watch football for enjoyment?? If you don't I do not see why you are on this website following a football team. Every single play there is some form of "head trauma" and every person who plays football knows it and willingly plays it. So if you watch football which no one forces you to do, you are supporting all the "human beings suffer repeated blunt force head trauma" that you claim is so wrong.
section122 Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I think the celebration after he looked over and saw Lee hurt was worth fining him over. It was an offensive player decleating a defender. It rarely happens and I cans see why he would be excited and celebrate. If Sean Lee hit him going over the middle do you think he wouldn't have celebrated. THE reality of it is,,,its bad press ..publicly they will chastize him but wait till it shows up on next years highlight films... total hippocrites !!! For sure. Do they still do the Jacked up! segment on ESPN? This would have been a prime candidate. Bottom line is this is a borderline hit. Could be dirty may not be, but there is no way he is escaping without a fine. Just because ppl think it isn't a dirty hit doesn't mean they don't care about player safety. It means they think it was a clean hit and part of football. If you think the NFL fined him because they care about player safety I will direct you to Steve Young's comments on MNF.
papazoid Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 i think it should be a legal hit.......tate hit him right between the numbers in his chest. looked like he tried to lead with his shoulder, with the head and shoulder making simultaneous contact. at that speed, its almost impossible to not make some contact with your helmet, even tho your trying to lead with your shoulder. i'd love to be in the room when seattle reviews the film of that hit....priceless
DDD Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 40 second mark. Is he wearing a f'ing g-string?!?!? I noticed that too.
Billsrhody Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 The thing with this hit is that it was completely unnecessary. Tate could have bumped Lee and that would have been just as effective.
papazoid Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) i think it should be a legal hit.......tate hit him right between the numbers in his chest. looked like he tried to lead with his shoulder, with the head and shoulder making simultaneous contact. at that speed, its almost impossible to not make some contact with your helmet, even tho your trying to lead with your shoulder. i'd love to be in the room when seattle reviews the film of that hit....priceless having said that..... an NFL spokesman has provided this explanation: “It was an illegal blindside block against a defenseless player. Page 67 of the rule book. Unnecessary contact against a defenseless player is prohibited. That includes ‘a player who receives a ‘blindside’ block when the blocker is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and approaches the opponent form behind or from the side.’” This year, the NFL expanded the protection to include a player who not only is moving toward his own end zone (like Lee was) but also parallel to it. If — and only if — Lee had been moving toward the Seattle end zone at the time of the contact, he would not have been protected. http://profootballta...ck-protections/ Edited September 20, 2012 by papazoid
Canks Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Shoudn't they have spotted the ball where Tate's knees touched? he was down at that point, no?
xsoldier54 Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Hit was dirty, but the celebration was downright embarrassing Disagree. It looked like a clean hit to me. I'll pass on discussing the celebration, but from what I saw, it didn't look like he speared him. There might have been some helmet in there, but it very well could have been a shoulder. Couldn't tell. having said that..... an NFL spokesman has provided this explanation: “It was an illegal blindside block against a defenseless player. Page 67 of the rule book. Unnecessary contact against a defenseless player is prohibited. That includes ‘a player who receives a ‘blindside’ block when the blocker is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and approaches the opponent form behind or from the side.’” This year, the NFL expanded the protection to include a player who not only is moving toward his own end zone (like Lee was) but also parallel to it. If — and only if — Lee had been moving toward the Seattle end zone at the time of the contact, he would not have been protected. http://profootballta...ck-protections/ Looked to me like he was pursuing a Seattle player towards the Seattle end zone. And I disagree that he was defenseless. He should have seen that coming.
SUNTANBILLSFAN Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Hit was dirty, but the celebration was downright embarrassing Soon they will make them play 2 hand touch! I can hear it now "I touched you, No you didn't" LOL
Maury Ballstein Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) tasker and new bills you guys amaze me with this trauma head stuff......either don't play....or just cancel football alltogether......this NO MORE HARD TACKLING nonsense is terrible.....when i played I would knock lees head off as well and then later in the game he would do the same to me....its how the game works no one said it's pretty......There was no flag PERIOD! and for tasker PERIOD! you can twist it however you want.........i agree with another poster that maybe yall should not watch football or better yet lets just get rid of football because the cold hard truth is most will be hurt eventually.....it is what it is but there is nothing dirty about that play...........the pussification of america as i believe George Carlin said is going way way way way too far........now the NFL is involved....gonna have to cancel the season and replace it with a Glee marathon! thats the ticket! Edited September 20, 2012 by Ryan L Billz
boyst Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I get the concerns over the head injuries but you can't just bump and tap guys. If he would have tapped Lee he would not have been doing his job.
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