Fingon Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 No, they have to do it against the best defensive lines and week in/week out. You can't say anyone is 'one of the best' in week 2. Consistency is the name of the game. Potential to be? Sure. Since it's impossible for the Bills to play a good D-line every game, It seems like your criteria for being good will never be met. What they do against crappy lines is just as important as what they do against good ones.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 I'll say this - so far the new top 5 including Glenn, plus Hairston as a swingman who will get into games, is pretty awesome. I have never considered how much having a guy like that, who can step in and spell the starter with little drop-off, could affect the well-being and staying power of the starters.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 I know it has only been 2 weeks but this is just as much a continuation off of last year. No sacks allowed after 2 weeks, the league leader in rushing and yards/carry. No matter how "quickly Fitz gets rid of the ball", is it safe to say that this offensive line is one of the top units in the league? I don't think it's safe to draw any conclusions until the Fat Lady sings in January. Especially not after 2 games.
K-9 Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 I don't think it's safe to draw any conclusions until the Fat Lady sings in January. Especially not after 2 games. I think you mean February. The 3rd to be exact. GO BILLS!!!
thewildrabbit Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 i think this year is much less in the way of smoke and mirrors. its still early to tell, but i think they are getting there. Yea, finally replaced Jason Peters with someone better Right side is still somewhat questionable, they have the size thats for certain! Now we just gotta see how they do in the 3rd and short power blocks and the pass block longer then 3 seconds
Astrobot Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 Our backup RB has a Yards per Carry of 10+ after two weeks. The last time that happened for any NFL running back was 1963. Man by the name of Jim Brown. It is a very good OLine.
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 If they can build on last year by staying healthy and upgrading their weakest link to one of their greatest strengths (which we'll know by the end of the year), and thry can repeat the performance again next year, then yes.
UConn James Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 I think the OL is finally good. enough that if the Fitz of the last half of last year and the first game this year continues to show up, or even if Fitz simply does all right / not bad.... We could finally be in a position to draft a QB high and not get 'im killed and turned into a gunshy kitty. Don't get me wrong --- I want Fitz to be the guy. But we can't let the window close while waiting for him to become a QB who can make all the throws. Seriously, if he physically can't Throw a 20-yard spiral with any degree of accuracy, then what the hell are we doing?!!
Malazan Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 Since it's impossible for the Bills to play a good D-line every game, It seems like your criteria for being good will never be met. What they do against crappy lines is just as important as what they do against good ones. I can only assume you're intentionally misunderstanding standard sentence structure so you have a straw-man to knock down. It was clearly stated that they must perform against the best defensive lines and perform every week. That would naturally imply they would have to perform against whatever line they are playing against, good, bad or otherwise.
jester43 Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 it's certainly one of the better ones and it was last year too. unforCHANately we just throw too much. i am sure most of you heard the stat we are 5-0 when fitz throws less than 30 passes in a game.
Doc Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 The Oline needs a nickname. How about..."The Wolfpack?"
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 The best? I don't know. We still aren't phenomenal at power running. When you watch the game against the Chiefs, most Spiller runs came out of the spread. But there still is something to be said for our rushing strategy (as long as Fitz can make them pay by calling an audible if they keep 8 men in the box) and our pass protection looks good. We've allowed ZERO sacks, and are tied for second in number of QB hits. I think playing Houston and San Fran will tell us exactly how good we are.
PatsFanNH Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 IMO A little early be calling them one of the best in the league. It isnt like you have faced the Ravens,SF,Texans of the world the 1st 2 weeks you faced the Jets (who stunk in pressuring the QB.) and the Chiefs..
bananathumb Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 If we run the ball more we'll find out.
Billsrhody Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 I can only assume you're intentionally misunderstanding standard sentence structure so you have a straw-man to knock down. It was clearly stated that they must perform against the best defensive lines and perform every week. That would naturally imply they would have to perform against whatever line they are playing against, good, bad or otherwise. Well for the most part we can count last year as well. Fewest sacks allowed and 4th highest rushing average. Doesnt that mean anything? I think the line is very well coached. It finally seems like we have a blocking scheme that works. And for everyone who is saying that they are not the best. I'm not saying they are the best in the league, just one of the best.
marauderswr80 Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 They have come a long ways!!! Only going to get better!
The Voice of Truth Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 I think it is a little early to proclaim they are the best in the league. Firstly, I don't know enough about all the other teams' lines. Secondly, as you noted, it is only week 2. Thirdly, Cordy Glenn is a rookie and we have only seen 2 regular season games out of him. Are all things looking great thus far? Absolutely. But I am going to hold off that they are the number one O-Line in the league for a number of more weeks. The Oline needs a nickname. The "Buffal-O-Line" Brutals
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 IMO, the key to a great oline is staying together for years. This is still a very young group overall. I'd love to see them lock up the entire group and a few key backups for the next 5 years. Then, we'd really be talking about an elite unit. I think Fitz gets too much blame at times, but still we do need to think about a future replacement. But given the oline, some of the skill players, and hopefully, a defense that continues to improve, a young QB will be stepping into a very good situation.
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 I honestly don't think you.can make an argument right now that we are not a top 5 line in the league. Between no sacks allowed, pass protection , run blocking , yds per carry etc... they have been dominant and we have played 2 decent D lines. The jets are good and KC isn't as bad as they looked.
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