dayman Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Honestly...I think we all get it...911 happened....and now we should move on. On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified reviewof the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal. On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief — and only that daily brief — in response to pressure from the 9/11 Commission, which was investigating the events leading to the attack. Administration officials dismissed the document’s significance, saying that, despite the jaw-dropping headline, it was only an assessment of Al Qaeda’s history, not a warning of the impending attack. While some critics considered that claim absurd, a close reading of the brief showed that the argument had some validity. That is, unless it was read in conjunction with the daily briefs preceding Aug. 6, the ones the Bush administration would not release. While those documents are still not public, I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it. The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible. But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day. In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real. “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” the daily brief of June 29 read, using the government’s transliteration of Bin Laden’s first name. Going on for more than a page, the document recited much of the evidence, including an interview that month with a Middle Eastern journalist in which Bin Laden aides warned of a coming attack, as well as competitive pressures that the terrorist leader was feeling, given the number of Islamists being recruited for the separatist Russian region of Chechnya. And the C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed. Operatives connected to Bin Laden, one reported on June 29, expected the planned near-term attacks to have “dramatic consequences,” including major casualties. On July 1, the brief stated that the operation had been delayed, but “will occur soon.” Some of the briefs again reminded Mr. Bush that the attack timing was flexible, and that, despite any perceived delay, the planned assault was on track. Yet, the White House failed to take significant action. Officials at the Counterterrorism Center of the C.I.A. grew apoplectic. On July 9, at a meeting of the counterterrorism group, one official suggested that the staff put in for a transfer so that somebody else would be responsible when the attack took place, two people who were there told me in interviews. The suggestion was batted down, they said, because there would be no time to train anyone else. That same day in Chechnya, according to intelligence I reviewed, Ibn Al-Khattab, an extremist who was known for his brutality and his links to Al Qaeda, told his followers that there would soon be very big news. Within 48 hours, an intelligence official told me, that information was conveyed to the White House, providing more data supporting the C.I.A.’s warnings. Still, the alarm bells didn’t sound. On July 24, Mr. Bush was notified that the attack was still being readied, but that it had been postponed, perhaps by a few months. But the president did not feel the briefings on potential attacks were sufficient, one intelligence official told me, and instead asked for a broader analysis on Al Qaeda, its aspirations and its history. In response, the C.I.A. set to work on the Aug. 6 brief. In the aftermath of 9/11, Bush officials attempted to deflect criticism that they had ignored C.I.A. warnings by saying they had not been told when and where the attack would occur. That is true, as far as it goes, but it misses the point. Throughout that summer, there were events that might have exposed the plans, had the government been on high alert. Indeed, even as the Aug. 6 brief was being prepared, Mohamed al-Kahtani, a Saudi believed to have been assigned a role in the 9/11 attacks, was stopped at an airport in Orlando, Fla., by a suspicious customs agent and sent back overseas on Aug. 4. Two weeks later, another co-conspirator, Zacarias Moussaoui, was arrested on immigration charges in Minnesota after arousing suspicions at a flight school. But the dots were not connected, and Washington did not react. Could the 9/11 attack have been stopped, had the Bush team reacted with urgency to the warnings contained in all of those daily briefs? We can’t ever know. And that may be the most agonizing reality of all. http://www.nytimes.c...1-warnings.html Edited September 11, 2012 by TheNewBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Are you surprised that the nyt is this full of ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 Are you surprised that the nyt is this full of ****? I don't think they're full of **** and this isn't really full of ****. It's just tired and not a really an article we need to have today of all days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Its gruel is thin when it comes to actually assembling a case of any real Bush-administration negligence. And that is the best evidence that Eichenwald and the Times were not motivated by any sincere desire to review the historical record with the goal of preventing future lapses. Rather, this is cheap political exploitation and finger-pointing at its basest. Eichenwald stirs the pot but concludes with a cop-out: "Could the 9/11 attack have been stopped, had the Bush team reacted with urgency to the warnings contained in all of those daily briefs? We can’t ever know. And that may be the most agonizing reality of all." Actually, an even more agonizing reality than anything Eichenwald's rehash revealed is that people like him will be given cover by newspapers like the Times to exploit 9-11 for low partisan purposes. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2012/09/11/9-11-anniversary-new-york-times-op-ed-blames-bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I don't think they're full of **** and this isn't really full of ****. It's just tired and not a really an article we need to have today of all days. I'm not even debating the validity of the claims but the way nyt automatically keeps up with the Democratic spin machine. Thats what I think is full of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'm not even debating the validity of the claims but the way nyt automatically keeps up with the Democratic spin machine. Thats what I think is full of ****. Let's see how the report tomorrow on an American being killed in Cairo while Egyptians burn our Embassy and flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 Let's see how the report tomorrow on an American being killed in Cairo while Egyptians burn our Embassy and flag. Libyan embassy I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Libyan embassy I think American, according to the last news report I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 American, according to the last news report I read. jackass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 jackass I must have missed something. In my defense, I was detained at work as a terrorist today, so I'm still a bit distracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Libyan embassy I think American. They took down the US flag flying half-mast for 9/11, replaced it with an Islamic flag, burned the US flag, and killed an American. Because of a movie which the US Embassy, ultimately, apologized for. Catch up. http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-19562688 I really hate how this administration has turned the US into the biggest dicksuckers in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) American. They took down the US flag flying half-mast for 9/11, replaced it with an Islamic flag, burned the US flag, and killed an American. Because of a movie which the US Embassy, ultimately, apologized for. Catch up. http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-19562688 I really hate how this administration has turned the US into the biggest dicksuckers in the world. I'm saying it happened at the Libya American embassy...the death...there were two separate embassy stormings today.... catch up Edited September 12, 2012 by TheNewBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'm saying it happened at the Libya American embassy...the death...there were two separate embassy stormings today.... catch up I'm sure we'll hear all about it on Letterman tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 I'm sure we'll hear all about it on Letterman tonight. If I pay you 1 million bitcoins will you leave the board forever and never come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 If I pay you 1 million bitcoins will you leave the board forever and never come back? Longest amateur hour ever. Hope you're happy. The least you idiots could have done was elect Hillary instead of this walking clown car. http://www.politico....ogy-135247.html The Obama administraiton is disavowing a statement from its own Cairo embassy that apologized for anti-Muslim activity in the United States."The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," a senior administration official told POLITICO. The U.S. embassy in Cairo put out a statement early Tuesday that apologized for an anti-Muslim film being circulated by an Israeli-American real estate developer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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