VABills Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 No way was that a 2/3 majority. TOTUS said to call it a majority and move on. Seriously, the teleprompter told the chairman to declare it passed and ignore the rights of the party goers. What TOTUS says, goes.
DC Tom Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Wait, what the !@#$ was that?? So that's how they vote, by a sound meter? And I'm assuming they're voting to take the word God out? And then they follow it with an invocation from a Bishop. That just proves one thing: the "Party Platform" is completely meaningless bull ****.
VABills Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 That just proves one thing: the "Party Platform" is completely meaningless bull ****. Well they only got Cardinal Dolan after they whined and bitched a lot. He wan't going to do it. I've met Cardinal Dolan and he isn't one to anger.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) who freaking cares? This is another non issue blown out of proportion! Who's God? Yours, the Jewish, the Muslims, Hari Krishna's, Wiccans, Native American religions, which Christian belief system? What of the many atheists? They are 10% of the American population! They don't have a say? Edited September 6, 2012 by BillsFan-4-Ever
DC Tom Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 who freaking cares? Who's God? Yours, the Jewish, the Muslims, Hari Krishna's, Wiccans, Native American religions, which Christian belief system? What of the many atheists? They are 10% of the American population! They don't have a say? And what about us Pastafarians?
VABills Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 who freaking cares? Who's God? Yours, the Jewish, the Muslims, Hari Krishna's, Wiccans, Native American religions, which Christian belief system? What of the many atheists? They are 10% of the American population! They don't have a say? If they are 10% then they were all at the convention last night because there were a lot more nays than yahs. Tells you that all of the atheists sit in the dimwitted party.
B-Man Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) For the "who cares if its in there" and "platforms don't mean anything" crowd. The rather obvious reason that this is news,........ is the party response. God had been mentioned in all previous democrat platforms, and when they recieved criticism that it wasn't, the 'leaders' folded like a cheap suit. Even steamrolling over their own delegates to do so. Their inability to stick to their principles IS newsworthy, and certainly should be kept in mind when listening to anythng that they claim. Re-election trumps all................. Edited September 6, 2012 by B-Man
The Big Cat Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 For the "who cares if its in there" and "platforms don't mean anything" crowd. The rather obvious reason that this is news,........ is the party response. God had been mentioned in all previous democrat platforms, and when they recieved criticism that it wasn't, the 'leaders' folded like a cheap suit. Even steamrolling over their own delegates to do so. Their inability to stick to their principles IS newsworthy, and certainly should be kept in mind when listening to anythng that they claim. Re-election trumps all................. The whole ordeal was spinelessness at its most pathetic, much like Romney's meandering "principles"...
3rdnlng Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 The whole ordeal was spinelessness at its most pathetic, much like Romney's meandering "principles"... Be specific.
The Big Cat Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Be specific. Oh? Is this news to you? Welcome to reality. Be specific. But...Just for fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_pgfWK3sxw ALSO: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/mitt-romneys-biggest-flip-flops-20120801 http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/may/18/politifacts-guide-mitt-romneys-flip-flops/ And it's not just tree-hugging pinkos who have observed Willard's inability to make up his mind: http://www.lessgovisthebestgov.com/mitt-romney-flip-flops.html I mean, c'mon. This can't seriously be new to you...
TheMadCap Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Pardon? I don't mean anything you said Cat, I was calling B.S. on the contention made that the Dems ommited the "God" part by mistake. I think they knew exactly what they were doing...
The Big Cat Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I don't mean anything you said Cat, I was calling B.S. on the contention made that the Dems ommited the "God" part by mistake. I think they knew exactly what they were doing... And I actually wish I hadn't posted in haste because the author calls it both mistake and error--I firmly think it was the latter, and that there's a clear distinction between the two. Note: It was an error in today's political climate, two months before an election, when it's not about guts, convictions and "principles," when it's just a glorified head count, and when Christian voters guided by the bible outnumber aethist voters, then it's an "error" to alienate a voter block that way. Acknowledging this error does not, however, mean that I personally think they were right to put God back in. In fact I think they were right to leave he/she/it out in the first place. But if those dimwits care about winning the election, there's got to be some God 'n-dere.
Gary M Posted September 6, 2012 Author Posted September 6, 2012 I don't mean anything you said Cat, I was calling B.S. on the contention made that the Dems ommited the "God" part by mistake. I think they knew exactly what they were doing... I think it was a distraction, to keep people from talking about $16 Trillion. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/04/as-us-debt-hits-16-trillion-ryan-hammers-his-message-home/
Doc Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 The whole ordeal was spinelessness at its most pathetic, much like Romney's meandering "principles"... Call it "evolving." That seems to play to libs.
B-Man Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I think it was a distraction, to keep people from talking about $16 Trillion. http://politicaltick...s-message-home/
truth on hold Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I read earlier today (can't find it now) that a dem official was arguing that the word "God" had not been removed , as it was in all previous platforms, it just wasn't included this time. Newspeak at its finest. and while I am sadly aware that religion is mostly scoffed at here, i would like to offer this thought. The R's believe (as in the Declaration of Independence) that our rights are God given. The D's believe our rights are goverment given. If God given, then our rights cannot be taken away by man. If goverment given, then man can take away our rights. It is fundamental and important. . Which God? And of if you select a "God", like the Christian God, whose interpretation of what those God given rights are you using ? If God have man rights why are states needed to enforce them?
DC Tom Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 For the "who cares if its in there" and "platforms don't mean anything" crowd. The rather obvious reason that this is news,........ is the party response. God had been mentioned in all previous democrat platforms, and when they recieved criticism that it wasn't, the 'leaders' folded like a cheap suit. Even steamrolling over their own delegates to do so. Their inability to stick to their principles IS newsworthy, and certainly should be kept in mind when listening to anythng that they claim. Re-election trumps all................. "Principles." Hah. We're talking about a political party. The only principle it recognizes is "power".
B-Man Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Which God? And of if you select a "God", like the Christian God, whose interpretation of what those God given rights are you using ? If God have man rights why are states needed to enforce them? Sorry Joe, that dog won't hunt. There is no "assigned" God, nor should there be. Pick your own or pick your neighbors The United States Republic has freedom OF religion and does not need a Christian, Muslim, Jewish, you name it, God to be followed. What it does need, and you are trying to twist, is the common belief that citizens rights are inalienable, and do NOT come from the government. So try that "whose God" nonsense on some like thinking libs, save it here.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 And what about us Pastafarians? Pastafarians as well, the more the merrier. We Be Smokin Man, We Be Tokin Man! Forgeddaboudit!!!
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