WorldTraveller Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 You mean the talking point defense? It's no different than what many other effective speakers do, except his speech is now running on almost 45 minutes which is waaaaay too long.
B-Man Posted September 6, 2012 Author Posted September 6, 2012 He's actually informing people of his view by talking about the issues that are used as attacks and defenses by either side...more speeches should do that. Yes this will sound partisan, but excuse me if I laugh when the guy who was disbarred for perjury keeps saying, "This is the what the truth is." He's always been a good speaker, but this isn't 1996 and I don't see his "remember how good it was" speech stopping the bleeding of independents away from Mr. Obama. .
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 LMFAO PPP users complaining that a Dem is taking too long to talk to the AMerican people about policy
Doc Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 It would be a great speech...if the economy wasn't so crappy with no help in sight.
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Say what you will PPP, that was a !@#$ing speech. Bravo Mr. Clinton
WorldTraveller Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 It would be a great speech...if the economy wasn't so crappy with no help in sight. Or even better yet, have everyone believe that his same policies and style of governing are similar to that of obamas.
Doc Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Or even better yet, have everyone believe that his same policies and style of governing are similar to that of obamas. It's pretty pathetic when Barry has to resort to running on Clinton's record.
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 It's pretty pathetic when Barry has to resort to running on Clinton's record. Assuming you watched the speech pretty pathetic you would say that
WorldTraveller Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) I've already heard two commentators from two different networks that used adjectives such as "long" and "rambling" Pretty much what I thought. Would of been more effective if he shortened it to half hour Edit: make that three Edited September 6, 2012 by WorldTraveller
Doc Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Assuming you watched the speech pretty pathetic you would say that It is what it is.
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I've already heard two commentators from two different networks that used adjectives such as "long" and "rambling" Pretty much what I thought. Would of been more effective if he shortened it to half hour Edit: make that three Really not sure why you are on this board if that's how you feel.
WorldTraveller Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) No need to be so sensitive Sally . Edit: make that four Edited September 6, 2012 by WorldTraveller
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 No need to be so sensitive Sally . Edit: make that four LOL I'm not sensitive I know the crowd here. All I'm saying is IMO (and nobody here will agree but that goes without saying) Clinton gave an amazing speech. I know it ran long and actually talked about policy but....I like that. Now I admit...I am a huge Clinton fan. Having read his books...what he basically did was summarize his last book "Back to Work" (which talked very much about Obama policy) weaving it in addressing the current GOP campaign and he did it with facts while still working in enough emotion to make is palpable as a speech to the masses. Maybe you can argue it was too long or dropped too many policy terms to really get to the masses...but erring on the side of raising the bar is the way I'd like to see my party go. Great speech. More substance (agree or disagree with what was said) than any speech of this campaign so far and more than we'll see again (including debates) and only Clinton could do that. It delivered. I'm sure Fox News and various conservative outlets will have their own view and I would expect that, it's fine and it should be that way...but for the democratic party he basically delivered after being hyped massively. At least in my opinion.
WorldTraveller Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 No, you're sensitive, or else you wouldn't of made the school girl comment of "I didn't like your answer, so you should leave"
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 No, you're sensitive, or else you wouldn't of made the school girl comment of "I didn't like your answer, so you should leave" My response: "I don't understand why you are complaining a good speaker just made a substantive policy ridden speech that American's who support him should here b/c it went longer than 20 minutes"
WorldTraveller Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 "really not sure why you are on this board if that's how you feel" Translation: I don't like what you said, you should leave, waaaaaa
dayman Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 LOL fair enough if that's what you read. Simply saying a fairly substantive speech that ran long b/c of it is something you don't like? Not sure why you are interested in PPP (actually....it all just clicked right now...it all makes sense). I love you World...only b/c Clinton told me I have too hehe
Wacka Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 This day was about women and as Mark Levin said: ..and the keynote was by the 500- pond pervert in the corner."
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