dayman Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I think the electoral college vote should be dropped as well. It was put in place during a time that the popular vote couldn't be trusted to vote a legit viable candidate into the office of the president. Those days are long gone and its time to use the popular vote to represent the real choice of the American people. Straight popular vote, and you can vote online or by text. Clay Aiken for President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It does seem kind of silly to keep the electoral college when the federal government has trampled over states rights. Dumb reasonong. States' rights are being eroded, so lets erode them further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Straight popular vote, and you can vote online or by text. Clay Aiken for President. What are two things not usually associated with one another Alex? But seriously, your idea will open the way for America to elect it's first singing cat President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Straight popular vote, and you can vote online or by text. Clay Aiken for President. I know your joking. But back in the 1700's and early 1800's it was a legit concern that some retard would get elected by the popular vote. There weren't many newspapers and most people couldn't read anyways. So it made sense to have the electoral college. In today's culture of investigative reporters, radio, television, internet there is no way an unqualified retard would get elected. It would make an interesting book to read how the world would be different if Gore was President instead of Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We should scrap the electoral college with the same legislation that does away with state borders, creating an entirely new political system. Which is to say that we shouldn't. We are not a homogeneous people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We should scrap the electoral college with the same legislation that does away with state borders, creating an entirely new political system. Which is to say that we shouldn't. We are not a homogeneous people. That is an extreme over reaction to doing away with the electoral college vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 That is an extreme over reaction to doing away with the electoral college vote. In what regard? If we're doing away with the political autonomy of states and eroding states rights, what's the purpose of having states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 In what regard? If we're doing away with the political autonomy of states and eroding states rights, what's the purpose of having states? farm team for Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 farm team for Washington Fantastic argument against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) We should scrap the electoral college with the same legislation that does away with state borders, creating an entirely new political system. Which is to say that we shouldn't. We are not a homogeneous people. But the federal government expansion has already pretty much done away with differences between states. Occasionally I'll hear someone choose one state based on tax rates but that's about it. So keeping the electoral college effectively disenfranchises voters from under represented states. If federal government has become so dominant in everyone's lifes, each individual voter should have a proportional say in how they're governed. Edited September 2, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 whats the point of voting if you live in major red or blue state? i agree, do an online popular vote... is that so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 All this talk about the electoral college is informative and stirring just before the election, but let's get back to Al Gore--he's a dyed-in-the-wool doofus of the first magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 All this talk about the electoral college is informative and stirring just before the election, but let's get back to Al Gore--he's a dyed-in-the-wool doofus of the first magnitude. Everybody loves to hate on George W Bush. But imagine a world where Al Gore was President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Everybody loves to hate on George W Bush. But imagine a world where Al Gore was President No because that would have meant that POS Joe LIEberman was VP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Everybody loves to hate on George W Bush. But imagine a world where Al Gore was President Yes, we'd be coming out of three and a half years of Jeb Bush blaming Gore for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldTraveller Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 whats the point of voting if you live in major red or blue state? i agree, do an online popular vote... is that so hard? "online vote" No because that would have meant that POS Joe LIEberman was VP Are you an anti-Semite ? Oh and what are your thoughts regarding Derek jeter? Is he earning his pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 I know your joking. by thBut back in the 1700's and early 1800's it was a legit concern that some retard would get elected e popular vote. There weren't many newspapers and most people couldn't read anyways. So it made sense to have the electoral college. In today's culture of investigative reporters, radio, television, internet there is no way an unqualified retard would get elected. It would make an interesting book to read how the world would be different if Gore was President instead of Bush. "Some retard might get voted in by a popular vote?" Well Gore won the popular vote and Obama was elected. Doesn't that disprove your point that we're smarter now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Why should we be proud of our Constitution? It was written by a bunch of dead White Capitalistic Heterosexual Christian males Besides the fact they knew what they were doing, their cultural identity is not kosher They weren't all Christians. Madison and Jefferson were not only skeptical of organized religion as a whole, their own personal beliefs were closer to Washington's who was not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination. A point that the evangelical/radical wing of the GOP has all but whitewashed from the public consciousness over the past 10+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 They weren't all Christians. Madison and Jefferson were not only skeptical of organized religion as a whole, their own personal beliefs were closer to Washington's who was not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination. A point that the evangelical/radical wing of the GOP has all but whitewashed from the public consciousness over the past 10+ years. At least you call the evangelicals a "wing" of the party. Most dems think that every republican or conservative is an evangelical. At the risk of Tom putting me squarely in his sights we conservatives view the dems as all being gay. Makes about as much sense, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 At least you call the evangelicals a "wing" of the party. Most dems think that every republican or conservative is an evangelical. At the risk of Tom putting me squarely in his sights we conservatives view the dems as all being gay. Makes about as much sense, doesn't it? Totally agree. I know many proud republicans that aren't evangelicals (Romney being one). The problem to me personally is their voices have been drowned out by the fringes -- the core of which are largely (though not completely) evangelical. I'm not at all against religion and have no qualms with people voting with their faith. I just get terrified by the thought of legislating that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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