muffmonster Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I have visions of tebow scrambling for clutch first downs against us.. God I hope I'm wrong. Review our game against the Broncos last year. Visions of fumbles, interceptions and overall QB ineptitude.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Bills Win 24 to 12. TeeBow wins a sack / fumble you have to remember this - and hope for a repeat. The Bills were the BEST in the NFL in the RedZone before the injuries to starters began. Player by player the Offense dropped in the standings. Edited August 29, 2012 by BillsFan-4-Ever
Dorkington Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Review our game against the Broncos last year. Visions of fumbles, interceptions and overall QB ineptitude. That's assuming that the Jets are running the same plays/offense as the Broncos.
NickelCity Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Man I hope those predicting big wins are correct.
weehawk Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 The Jets are not very good. If we cant mop the field with them, then we are very far away from the 10-6 or 11-5 predictions that many people made for this season. Everyone pretty much had us beating them both times. Now it's going to be a close, low-scoring game? Not a good sign. The Bills appear to be a paper lion with no real teeth on either O or D. Jets will likely be a 3 point fav simply becasue of home field. I'm a Bills fan BTW. Bet on the Jets to cover a 3-point spread at home. Jets 17 Buf 9
You herd it hear last Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 The Jets are not very good. If we cant mop the field with them, then we are very far away from the 10-6 or 11-5 predictions that many people made for this season. Everyone pretty much had us beating them both times. Now it's going to be a close, low-scoring game? Not a good sign. The Bills appear to be a paper lion with no real teeth on either O or D. Jets will likely be a 3 point fav simply becasue of home field. I'm a Bills fan BTW. Bet on the Jets to cover a 3-point spread at home. Jets 17 Buf 9 mmmmm... cr@p sandwich...tasty!
weehawk Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Yes, it is a steaming pile. I think the team is heading in the right direction, but our problems are so deep and wide that it's going to be another season or two before we see the playoffs again. The DET game could be telling. The last pre-season game is usually a true warm-up to the regular season. If they finish strong, it could carry over and then you never know. Personally, I have my doubts about Fitz. He's a good backup, but he's not a playoff-caliber starter. We still need an O-line too. Maybe the D can carry us for a few games. mmmmm... cr@p sandwich...tasty!
K-9 Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Yes, it is a steaming pile. I think the team is heading in the right direction, but our problems are so deep and wide that it's going to be another season or two before we see the playoffs again. The DET game could be telling. The last pre-season game is usually a true warm-up to the regular season. If they finish strong, it could carry over and then you never know. Personally, I have my doubts about Fitz. He's a good backup, but he's not a playoff-caliber starter. We still need an O-line too. Maybe the D can carry us for a few games. That couldn't be farther from the truth and the Detroit game will tell us the LEAST of the preseason games. Last time we played them which was late November and in Jersey, our offense did pretty well against what I think is one of the best defenses in the league. Held the ball for over 36 minutes with Fitz throwing 3 TDs and no INTs. The reason we lost that game was because we couldn't stop the run primarily and Sanchez was effective with play-action and had a very efficient game. We stop the run, get in Sanchez's grill, we should win a low scoring affair. Now isn't that better than a crap sandwich? GO BILLS!!!
PushthePile Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 Im looking for the Bills to establish a running game. Its a tough task to get into a groove running the ball in preseason. I believe this offense as a whole will be alot better go foward. I feel the same way about the Jets too. Neither offense is as bad as things looked. Prediction: Bills 27 Jets 17 The difference is turnovers and qb pressure. We are finally going to see everything at full throttle
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I do think that it's going to be a battle in the trenches. When the Jets have the Ball The Jets have been notably awful this preseason. When they were at their best, they had L.T. and were running the ground and pound. Shonn Greene is decent, but I would not say that he is a huge threat Three games in, their offense has no touchdowns. They may have a wrinkle or two with the wildcat, but their O-line has been abysmal and will be lining up against a very talented front four. Unlike Big Ben, I doubt either Sanchez or Tebow will be able to keep making plays out of the Max Protect scheme. The Bills secondary, while not there yet, will be against Santonio Holmnes just back from injury and...Angelo Cromartie? I'm not afraid. When the Bills have the Ball Rex Ryan will be stupid to not put 8 men in the box. He will be daring Fitz to throw. The only bright spot I can think of is that Stevie utterly torched Revis the last time they played. Whether or not the Bills will be effective will rely entirely upon whether Fitz gets his chemistry with his recievers back. Special Teams Moorman has been on, which looks like a good thing considering the number of punts that will be coming. Overall, the Bills edge it out. In the end, the Bills have a barely competent offense against an incompetent offense. Barring some dramatic shift, the Bills edge it out in a close one.
K-9 Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 I do think that it's going to be a battle in the trenches. When the Jets have the Ball The Jets have been notably awful this preseason. When they were at their best, they had L.T. and were running the ground and pound. Shonn Greene is decent, but I would not say that he is a huge threat Three games in, their offense has no touchdowns. They may have a wrinkle or two with the wildcat, but their O-line has been abysmal and will be lining up against a very talented front four. Unlike Big Ben, I doubt either Sanchez or Tebow will be able to keep making plays out of the Max Protect scheme. The Bills secondary, while not there yet, will be against Santonio Holmnes just back from injury and...Angelo Cromartie? I'm not afraid. When the Bills have the Ball Rex Ryan will be stupid to not put 8 men in the box. He will be daring Fitz to throw. The only bright spot I can think of is that Stevie utterly torched Revis the last time they played. Whether or not the Bills will be effective will rely entirely upon whether Fitz gets his chemistry with his recievers back. Special Teams Moorman has been on, which looks like a good thing considering the number of punts that will be coming. Overall, the Bills edge it out. In the end, the Bills have a barely competent offense against an incompetent offense. Barring some dramatic shift, the Bills edge it out in a close one. Not bad. Last time we played, Fitz was more than effective enough to win the game. He'll have more weapons this time around in the form of Fred Jackson, too. As for 8 in the box that's all well and good but a simple wrinkle in formation will take that away from Rex. Where Rex will kill us is when we have unmanageable down/distance situations. He will bring the house on ANY 2nd and 3rd and longs. Count on it. We have to keep him honest which, again, we did a pretty good job of the last time we played them in November. GO BILLS!!!
n3wyork13 Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 II don't think Fitz & Stevie are good enough to have productive games against Revis & Co. every time. I would love to be wrong, though. I don't think fitz is good enough period, hope I wrong
weehawk Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 How is it furthest from the truth? Both first teams should be out for the first half. Sure, they'll be getting a last look at some bubble guys, but we'll see the more of the first team than we have all pre-season. They've not showed a whole lot of anything good yet. So this last pre-season game will be indicative of how the first team is going to perform. What happened last November really doesn't matter. Both teams have changed and it's a new season. Citing stats/results from last year doesn't convince me of a thing. Our O is weak. Fitz is average, and unless we smash-mouth them with a lot of running, we're going to lose. Sorry for heaping on more steaming piles. I'm just not seeing a playoff-bound team here. I'm too old to bother with the whole..."it's a new season and anything can happen" mantra. This team is not a playoff contender (once again). That couldn't be farther from the truth and the Detroit game will tell us the LEAST of the preseason games. Last time we played them which was late November and in Jersey, our offense did pretty well against what I think is one of the best defenses in the league. Held the ball for over 36 minutes with Fitz throwing 3 TDs and no INTs. The reason we lost that game was because we couldn't stop the run primarily and Sanchez was effective with play-action and had a very efficient game. We stop the run, get in Sanchez's grill, we should win a low scoring affair. Now isn't that better than a crap sandwich? GO BILLS!!!
K-9 Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 How is it furthest from the truth? Both first teams should be out for the first half. Sure, they'll be getting a last look at some bubble guys, but we'll see the more of the first team than we have all pre-season. They've not showed a whole lot of anything good yet. So this last pre-season game will be indicative of how the first team is going to perform. What happened last November really doesn't matter. Both teams have changed and it's a new season. Citing stats/results from last year doesn't convince me of a thing. Our O is weak. Fitz is average, and unless we smash-mouth them with a lot of running, we're going to lose. Sorry for heaping on more steaming piles. I'm just not seeing a playoff-bound team here. I'm too old to bother with the whole..."it's a new season and anything can happen" mantra. This team is not a playoff contender (once again). You can expect to see the first team for 10 snaps, according to Gailey, Wood, and a couple others. The third preseason scrimmage is considered the dress rehearsal for the regular season and that's when the starters play the most. I agree that last year doesn't matter. But it's all I have to go by until further notice. And yes, both teams have changed. The Jets got worse on offense. We got better on defense. I keep trying to make chicken salad out of those chicken sh*t sandwiches you keep serving up. But I can't blame you one bit for being skeptical. No playoffs in 12 years says it all. GO BILLS!!!
3rdand12 Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 I expect ugliness and first game jitters from both teams. Then more ugliness. Probably won in the trenches and turnovers created
weehawk Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Man, I hope we're both wrong about no playoffs. Those ten snaps better result in two TDs. If the most we're going to see of the first string was that steaming pile against PIT, we are in for another long year. You can expect to see the first team for 10 snaps, according to Gailey, Wood, and a couple others. The third preseason scrimmage is considered the dress rehearsal for the regular season and that's when the starters play the most. I agree that last year doesn't matter. But it's all I have to go by until further notice. And yes, both teams have changed. The Jets got worse on offense. We got better on defense. I keep trying to make chicken salad out of those chicken sh*t sandwiches you keep serving up. But I can't blame you one bit for being skeptical. No playoffs in 12 years says it all. GO BILLS!!!
You herd it hear last Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 That couldn't be farther from the truth and the Detroit game will tell us the LEAST of the preseason games. Last time we played them which was late November and in Jersey, our offense did pretty well against what I think is one of the best defenses in the league. Held the ball for over 36 minutes with Fitz throwing 3 TDs and no INTs. The reason we lost that game was because we couldn't stop the run primarily and Sanchez was effective with play-action and had a very efficient game. We stop the run, get in Sanchez's grill, we should win a low scoring affair. Now isn't that better than a crap sandwich? GO BILLS!!! Yes, It's like having Baked Alaska , but I think I still have the taste of the main course in my mouth.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Yes, it is a steaming pile. I think the team is heading in the right direction, but our problems are so deep and wide that it's going to be another season or two before we see the playoffs again. The DET game could be telling. The last pre-season game is usually a true warm-up to the regular season. If they finish strong, it could carry over and then you never know. Personally, I have my doubts about Fitz. He's a good backup, but he's not a playoff-caliber starter. We still need an O-line too. Maybe the D can carry us for a few games. Typically, the last pre-season game is the one where the starters see the least action and the coaches perform their final evaluation of players who are "on the bubble". Not just for us - most teams do it this way. In what way does such a last pre-season game serve as a "true warm up to the regular season"?
CardinalScotts Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Spiller and Jackson in the passing game are the difference
thewildrabbit Posted August 30, 2012 Posted August 30, 2012 Rex Ryan made a statement a few weeks ago that his defense will be working against 4-5 WR one back spread sets in preparation for that first home game.Plus, we really haven't see anything of the Tebow / wildcat so far in the pre-season. The Jets players don't sound particularly concerned about their lack of offense so far this pre-season. The Jets are supposedly going to be a ground and pound offense this year like they were 2 years ago. From the way Stevie Johnson played in last weeks Steelers game it looked like this year was strike shortened off season with all the miscues, 9 targets, 3 catches. So are both teams so busy disguising what they will do opening game so nobody knows what to expect? I can only hope the Bills are ready to play, and play well enough to win.
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