Malazan Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 are we talking abut Vick in his one good year, his ok year, or the all the rest?
Rob's House Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Unless im taking it the wrong way....that shouldnt be posted Consider who we're discussing and take it in that context. I was expecting the Vick apologists to jump on me for that one.
Chas56 Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Yeah, Michael "Made of Glass" Vick would be awesome! With Vince Young as his back up! I mean the guy threw for 500 yards in a game one time! You know what, we should just all cheer for the Eagles! I heard they're on the verge of a Dynasty... Back in my Gamer days, we would call a character that had a lot of firepower and little defense a glass cannon. Pretty much fits Vick. I didn't like the dog torture at all, but he seems to be a changed man. Everyone deserves a second chance. But to answer the question: no. I think he is too fragile.
NoSaint Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Back in my Gamer days, we would call a character that had a lot of firepower and little defense a glass cannon. Pretty much fits Vick. I didn't like the dog torture at all, but he seems to be a changed man. Everyone deserves a second chance. But to answer the question: no. I think he is too fragile. Changed man? Because he hasn't been caught torturing anything lately? Or? Still seems arrogant. Still seems self centered. Still seems like he doesn't get his job. Generally seems a lot like the guy we knew before his arrest. Edited August 23, 2012 by NoSaint
Clippers of Nfl Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I'm relatively new to this forum. But, I hope that when the regular season starts, threads like this one will stop. I'd much rather read debate on players that we actually have. These hypothetical threads are a waste of time. That being said: screw Vick. To my mind, Gailey/Nix have shown that they place a high value on character. I like that about them, and I like the effect it has had on the team. I enjoy rooting for players that I can be proud of. But you still posted though huh!!!! To answer the question, hes better than fitz, so yes.
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 No, but I'd stop bringing my dogs to tailgate parties.
Green Lightning Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I would feel better about this thread if it wasn't about Vick.
Jim in Anchorage Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 If betting, I'd say we'd likely win an extra game or two with him. I would not feel better cheering for the team though. Might even have beat the Eagles last year if we had him. Oh wait...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 From a pure football standpoint, I don't know. I think Andy Reid is perhaps the NFL's best offensive coach and I wasn't very impressed with Vick when he was in Atlanta. He seems to be getting better coaching now and is starting to become a more complete QB but he has deficiencies still. Also physically, I wonder how long he will be an effective player. Between his slight stature and his high-risk style of play, I think he'll have a relatively short prime compared to the truly great QBs. I wouldn't trade Fitz for Vick.
mike6683 Posted August 23, 2012 Author Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) I guess the answer comes in two and a half weeks, I guess I'm just sick of this "potential" BS. Time for a Bills QB to put together a complete season. If fitz can be that guy we could be good for a while. But inst that always the case Edited August 23, 2012 by mike6683
THATS KILLER ORANGE JUICE Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 "No, because of Super fresh pitbull take" Get over yourselves lol that shxt was like 6 years ago now... i bet with those takes you probably consider yourselves "godfearing" types... idk, if so, even THAT dude forgives him you act like you all know the bills personally to speak of their "high character"... yeah right... now, that said, no i wouldnt take him.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Some people are just in love with the image of an athlete, often bearing no relation to what that athlete can actually do today. Vick will always be the guy on the Madden game cover and Nike ads,even if his actual performance for years has been middling at best. The guy who suggested trading Spiller for Jones-Drew is another example of the jock hanger mentality. PTR
truth on hold Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Not an ounce of doubt vick over Fitz. This barely warrants a reply given how obvious the answer
Dragonborn10 Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 If they had signed Vick I would have given up on the NFL, watched college FB on Saturday, and golfed or woked in my woodshop on Sunday. The Bills have been barely watchable for a decade and I sure as hell am not going to root for a dog-killer no matter how much I love the Bills.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Most people suggest how we would be with rookie QB's we never had a shot at. Now that the Bills are on verge of being a good football team and we had a real shot at bringing Mike Vick in after he got out out of jail. Would you feel much better about this team if he was leading it right now? NO! Guy can't stay healthy and has reverted back to relying on his legs to make plays, I really wished we had drafted a competent QB that could developed as quality back up or take over for Fitz.
FreakPop Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Most people suggest how we would be with rookie QB's we never had a shot at. Now that the Bills are on verge of being a good football team and we had a real shot at bringing Mike Vick in after he got out out of jail. Would you feel much better about this team if he was leading it right now? Nope, do not like how Mike Vick plays the QB position.
truth on hold Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 NO! Guy can't stay healthy and has reverted back to relying on his legs to make plays, I really wished we had drafted a competent QB that could developed as quality back up or take over for Fitz. Funny though all we keep hearing about is fitz rib injury as an excuse for his sucky 2nd half performance last season
Dorkington Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 more than 6 games in a season This assumes the Bills and Eagles have equal talent at all other positions?
Brandon Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 If they had signed Vick I would have given up on the NFL, watched college FB on Saturday, and golfed or woked in my woodshop on Sunday. The Bills have been barely watchable for a decade and I sure as hell am not going to root for a dog-killer no matter how much I love the Bills. That's pretty much how I feel about it as well. That would be the quickest way to end my interest in this team.
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 Easily the strongest arm in the league. But he's not a very good QB--even in Atlanta a million years ago he had only a couple of good seasons. He's the most fragile starter in the NFL and he will never be worth whatever it would take to trade for him. He has been the most crazy-hyped player in the last 10 years.
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