BuffBill Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 If it were somehow possible, would you trade for Andrew Luck in exchange for any three of the Bills players of the Colts choosing (ie - Luck for Fitzpatrick+Johnson+Dareus)? If you think 3 is the wrong number, do you think 1, 2, or 4+ would be the most you'd give up? Question is a little vague, but hell yes. Any 3 players on the roster for Luck in a heartbeat.
Punch Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 If it were somehow possible, would you trade for Andrew Luck in exchange for any three of the Bills players of the Colts choosing (ie - Luck for Fitzpatrick+Johnson+Dareus)? Fitzpatrick and Dareus make sense in a theoretical Luck trade but I don't think Spencer Johnson is enough of a sweetener to get it done.
todzilla Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Thats a fun hypothetical. I don't think the Colts make the trade, so yeah I'd do it. A once-in-a-generation QB is worth it. It would set the clock back another couple years, but the ceiling is higher with Luck than without him.
HOUSE Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 My 2 cents??? I trade nothing. He is an unproven player AND we still need the evaluation process with Fitz and Young. We may already have the quarterback we need.
truth on hold Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Let's flip it around: if you were Indy what would you have needed to receive to trade the pick? I think the only potential trade would have been something with panthers for cam newton; I.e. the only thing of comparable value to a young QB with high expection of elite franchise potential under the new cap is the same thing. No package of other players and positions works. Edited August 15, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack
paintmyhouse Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Any 5 players I would do it, and next year's 1st round draft pick, you have to have a good QB to win. My 2 cents??? I trade nothing. He is an unproven player AND we still need the evaluation process with Fitz and Young. We may already have the quarterback we need. Craziness, there is no one who works in football that does not believe he will be a really good player.
Gugny Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 I'd rather make a trade like that for someone who has actually played in at least one NFL game. As of right now, I have the same career stats as an NFL QB that Andrew Luck has.
Billsrhody Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Absolutely. They'd definitely want Dareus. After that its kind of a crap shoot. Would they want the huge contract of Mario Williams? Would they want a promising young player without proven experience (Gilmore, Spiller)? Would they want a solid proven piece (Levitre, Johnson, Jackson)? If I'm the Colts I'm taking Dareus, Gilmore and Levitre... and yea I'd do that deal in a heartbeat if I'm the Bills.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Let's flip it around: if you were Indy what would you have needed to receive to trade the pick? I think the only potential trade would have been something with panthers for cam newton; I.e. the only thing of comparable value to a young QB with high expection of elite franchise potential under the new cap is the same thing. No package of other players and positions works. There's always more scrutiny for the deal you DO make than the one you don't. The combination of Mario, Dareus and Fred/Stevie might very well have better real value than Luck, but the importance of QBs is so highly regarded that their front office would never live it down absent of a Superbowl.
thewildrabbit Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 The guy looked great in one preseason game... perhaps because it was against the Rams defense ( new staff). Perhaps one HC / owner called another and said I need to sell tix, let my guy look good willya. Its preseason, lets see what he does in week one in the regualr season at Chicago against a good defense. I'm not convinced just yet, one guy goes into his first year and takes a pounding and gets better (Manning-Aikman), another guy takes a pounding and gets worse (David Car-Joey Harrington) Its not just about how good Luck is, its also about how good his coaching staff, and players around him are the next few years, and how they build that team NFN but if ya give them SJ, wth on the team is going to be a receiving threat? The next Bills guy is ranked at #61. OTOH, The guy was worth 3 first rounders before the draft, and the Colts probably wouldn't have even traded him for that... so yea
apuszczalowski Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 I would, cause then the Board could go back to normal with its usual whining about how "Defence wins championships!" and "You have to build up the defence to have any chance of winning. See, the Colts knew you need defence first and any QB can make it to a SB with a good 'D'!"
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Funny thing is, if the 32 NFL teams were run in a vacuum this sort of deal might actually happen. But with the owners' and the fans' expectations involved, whichever team came out worse in 2 years' time would be fired.
Gugny Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Any 5 players I would do it, and next year's 1st round draft pick, you have to have a good QB to win. Craziness, there is no one who works in football that does not believe he will be a really good player. Same with Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russel, Couch ... the list goes on and on. Show me the baby!
Fan in San Diego Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Why trade anyone away. wait till next year and see who is available in round 1.
Donald Duck Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) If it were somehow possible, would you trade for Andrew Luck in exchange for any three of the Bills players of the Colts choosing (ie - Luck for Fitzpatrick+Johnson+Dareus)? If you think 3 is the wrong number, do you think 1, 2, or 4+ would be the most you'd give up? Everyone (Figster loves a good QB) Edited August 15, 2012 by Fig Newton
Best Player Available Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 Any three they want, and next years #1 to sweeten the deal. The only untouchable is our long snapper. We got to draw the line somewhere.
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