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I was thinking defense too. You don't have to be big to play defense, just fast enough and strong enough to run/take the other guy down.

 

If we're talking about a league of athletic clones, where the guys on offense have the same athletic skills as the guys on defense, same attributes, same everything, then it sounds a lot like rugby to me. But, rather than a field full of big lumbering guys, I want to see what a bunch of stocky, quick guys can do. More exciting, I'd venture.

 

In that case I'll pit my 53 Maurice Jones Drews against your 53 Darren Sproles. :D

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Tim Teebow is a nice pick, But Cam Newton is bigger, faster and a better QB. So i'll take 53 of him everytime.

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Nailed it!

 

I was going to chime in the same in reply to big Ben.

 

What you want is a guy that's about 250-260 with 4.5 speed and some semblance of an arm.

 

Cam is the prototype for this.

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I'd take a top-notch safety--like Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu. Fast, athletic, hit well, good hands.

 

I'd take the 50 or so lbs gap over the likely minimal gain in speed (especially at those guys ages)

 

Really has to be a TE, big qb, or 34 OLB for this. Someone athletic enough for the perimeter but strong enough for the trenches.

 

 

How about some other defensive guys - Demarcus ware? Hes 6'4, 260+ and runs a 4.5

 

Very similar to cam but a question of ball skills vs tackling. Ware was an MVP wideout in HS though, which helps.

 

 

A never would be considered current player: Robert Quinn. Hell of an athlete that put up amazing measurables considering he was a full year off when he had his proday.

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I'd take the 50 or so lbs gap over the likely minimal gain in speed (especially at those guys ages)

 

Really has to be a TE, big qb, or 34 OLB for this.

 

 

How about some other defensive guys - Demarcus ware? Hes 6'4, 260+ and runs a 4.5

 

Very similar to cam but a question of ball skills vs tackling.

 

I can't see Ware covering guys downfield. I think you almost need a LB-safety tweener-- like a Brian Urlacher perhaps.

 

I would still think Polamalu or Reed (in their prime) would be better; I'd rather have the speed than the weight.

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I can't see Ware covering guys downfield. I think you almost need a LB-safety tweener-- like a Brian Urlacher perhaps.

 

I would still think Polamalu or Reed (in their prime) would be better; I'd rather have the speed than the weight.

 

That speed doesn't get far when your 208 lbs offensive lineman are on their backs and this safety is is trying to throw over/run by a 260+ lbs 6'4 tank that's very nearly as fast.

 

On the flip side, he won't look that fast when getting blocked by a team with 11 guys heavier than him running the ball down his throat. It's got to be a tweener for the outside (again TE or 34 olb).

 

You wouldn't be able to get outside to stretch, as the outside blockers would be blown up. Wouldn't power in the middle as the big guys much stronger.

 

50lbs beats a tenth of a second every time. If we were talking 3-4 tenths it gets much closer but that much muscle and only losing a half step.... The small guy would be on the ground faster than he'd run the 40!

 

 

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1) Tom Rathman - Baddest West Coast Offense player of all time. No one else even comes close.

 

2) Danny White - Dude could punt too:

 

White had 1,761 completions on 2,950 attempts for 21,959 yards, 155 touchdowns, and 132 interceptions in his career. He also gained 482 yards and scored 8 touchdownsrushing. Unusual for a quarterback, he had two pass receptions for touchdowns, both from a halfback option pass. On special teams he punted 610 times for 24,509 yards, an average of 40.4 yards per punt, with 144 punts inside the 20 and 77 touchbacks. His record as the Cowboys' starting quarterback was 62-32 (.659 winning percentage) during the regular season, and 5-5 in the playoffs.

 

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Danny_White

 

3) Doug Flutie - Run, pass, drop kick...

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Mike Vrable. Big, strong, and tough enough to bang in the trenches on both offense and defense. Obviously capable at any of the tweener spots (LB, FB, TE). Smart enough to handle all the reads and calls on both spides of the ball. Instinctive and athletic enough to play saftey. He would invariably suffer at most (read: "all") of the skill positions, but I like his overall breakdown better than anyone else of this era. Jim Brown is the only other guy I'd consider, and if this were 1985 I'd have chosen him instead; but I don't think he'd be able to bang with modern day linemen.

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