RkFast Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 So what you're really saying is the opposite of this? That white, middle class males have had it good for so long it's time for their beat down? Thank you. TGREG's answer was typical and expected. But thats how he and other liberals think. That its now "our turn" to take a beating. That the poor immigrant kid deserves that college spot or loan or job more than mine for no other reason than that kid is a poor immigrant. That when a school or a neigborhood is "too white", as judged by THEM, its somehow "bad" and "evil" and "unfair" and must be changed, in the name of "diversity." Tell us, TGREG....how should my so-called "wealth" be shared. No, because that would be as ridiculous as the premise that the deck is stacked against white guys in this world. Especially white Christain guys with money. Being one myself I can safely say that we aren't being oppressed. At all. And making any sort of argument that we're not getting our fair share is just silly. Not what I said or implied and you know it.
CosmicBills Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Ok, so generally speaking you do believe that everyone is getting their "fair" share, right? I never said that nor do I believe that. I was only responding to RK's stance he's oppressed since he's white, male, and Christain.
Adam Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Ok, so generally speaking you do believe that everyone is getting their "fair" share, right? My fair share is six figures
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 It never ceases to baffle me that you clowns can do this all day, every day, and it never gets old. I'm amazed that you can assert in one post that America certainly does not operate in such a way, while confusing yourself with a double negative, and in the very next post go on to say "Obviously, America works" in the way that you had just denied a mere 5 minutes ago. Then you accused LA of conjuring fish. This is your crowning moment. Soak it up, Big Cat.
CosmicBills Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Not what I said or implied and you know it. That's exactly what you said and implied. I quoted you. I didn't make up the quote.
WorldTraveller Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) I never said that nor do I believe that. I was only responding to RK's stance he's oppressed since he's white, male, and Christain. I'm not understanding. Let me make myself a little more clear, do you believe that for the most part, everyone is getting their "fair share", or do you believe that the cards are stacked against people in our society?Generally speaking Edited August 14, 2012 by WorldTraveller
RkFast Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) According to RK it's white, christain dudes with money who weren't born from robots that are getting screwed. Wrong. I didnt say Im being "screwed." Im saying that people like myself, working class whites, are the ones who will NOT be on the receving end of whatever "check" Obama wants to hand out in the name of "sharing." That when he says "share", hes talking to me, the average taxpayer. Obama is pandering to the recipient class, not the producing class. its so funny how liberals love to say they "have enough" or can "give more." Last I checked, they use HR Block, too. Edited August 14, 2012 by RkFast
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Trickle down to me means when someone opens or expands their operation for example, several people that work benefit. Tradesmen that help build a new building or workers that make new equipment. People that have to be hired to make the business work. To me this is trickle down.No, this is not what Trickle Down economics are at all. Trickle Down economics specifically references Chicago School, Supply-Side Reaganomics which have far more in common with Keynesianism and Neo-Keynesianism than market based solutions.
RkFast Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 That's exactly what you said and implied. I quoted you. I didn't make up the quote. Well, youre wrong. I may not be a rocket scientist, but Im smart enough to know Im not being "oppressed."
IDBillzFan Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Are you making fish again, LA? One day you, too, will understand how America works. See, if NYC has 10,000 subcontractors who have too much work when times are good, it's not like that in any other city in America because apparently while no other city has as much wealth or as many wealthy people as NYC, they apparently all have 10,000 subcontractors. So it's only natural that many of them are sitting around doing nothing, waiting for the wealth in, say, Norco, CA to be the same as it is in NYC. Put another way: See... you gotta make my bunk. See, we're in Italy. The guy on the top bunk, he's gotta make the guy on the bottom's bunk... he's gotta make his bed, all the time. See, it's in the regulations. See, if we were in Germany, I'd have to make yours. But we're in Italy, so you gotta make mine. Regulations.
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 One day you, too, will understand how America works. See, if NYC has 10,000 subcontractors who have too much work when times are good, it's not like that in any other city in America because apparently while no other city has as much wealth or as many wealthy people as NYC, they apparently all have 10,000 subcontractors. So it's only natural that many of them are sitting around doing nothing, waiting for the wealth in, say, Norco, CA to be the same as it is in NYC. Put another way: See... you gotta make my bunk. See, we're in Italy. The guy on the top bunk, he's gotta make the guy on the bottom's bunk... he's gotta make his bed, all the time. See, it's in the regulations. See, if we were in Germany, I'd have to make yours. But we're in Italy, so you gotta make mine. Regulations. PS. Don't eat the schnitzel. Its schnauser.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Who hires contractors? I have had a torn up living room and hallway floors for the past three months... Living on subflooring... Just waiting to build extra cash soas to buy the materials and do the hardwood (going with the solid hardwood=more money) myself. It is actually kinda great... You can spill anything you want on it now!
CosmicBills Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 I'm not understanding. Let me make myself a little more clear, do you believe that for the most part, everyone is getting their "fair share", or do you believe that the cards are stacked against people in our society? I believe there is no such thing as fair in the big boy world. And the deck is most certainly stacked, always has been always will be. But to imply it's stacked against white males who believe is Jesus and have money is like saying the world is flat. It just isn't reality. But truthfully, I'm more concerned about the natural american versus the synthetic american. What are we talking about here? Is Googlebot breeding? Is he/she creating human-googlebot hybrids? THAT'S what's alarming here. Well, youre wrong. I may not be a rocket scientist, but Im smart enough to know Im not being "oppressed." Are you sure about that? Because from the tone of your posts it's very difficult to tell if any of these things are true.
Gary M Posted August 14, 2012 Author Posted August 14, 2012 One day you, too, will understand how America works. See, if NYC has 10,000 subcontractors who have too much work when times are good, it's not like that in any other city in America because apparently while no other city has as much wealth or as many wealthy people as NYC, they apparently all have 10,000 subcontractors. So it's only natural that many of them are sitting around doing nothing, waiting for the wealth in, say, Norco, CA to be the same as it is in NYC. Put another way: See... you gotta make my bunk. See, we're in Italy. The guy on the top bunk, he's gotta make the guy on the bottom's bunk... he's gotta make his bed, all the time. See, it's in the regulations. See, if we were in Germany, I'd have to make yours. But we're in Italy, so you gotta make mine. Regulations. Did you really just quote stripes in a socialism thread?
WorldTraveller Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) I believe there is no such thing as fair in the big boy world. And the deck is most certainly stacked, always has been always will be. But to imply it's stacked against white males who believe is Jesus and have money is like saying the world is flat. It just isn't reality. But truthfully, I'm more concerned about the natural american versus the synthetic american. What are we talking about here? Is Googlebot breeding? Is he/she creating human-googlebot hybrids? THAT'S what's alarming here. Can you give me examples of which subsect of our society where they aren't getting their "fair" share? I'm trying to pin you down here but you are proving to be quite elusive An example please, I'd be very interested to hear who and why Edited August 14, 2012 by WorldTraveller
Gary M Posted August 14, 2012 Author Posted August 14, 2012 Can you give me examples of which subsect of our society where they aren't getting their "fair" share? I'm trying to pin you down here but you are proving to be quite elusive An example please, I'd be very interested to hear who and why I want Romney and Ryan to get this conversation turned around. We need to start talking about the people who are not doing their fair share.
Dante Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 BS. Nobody really wants to hire people, who wants the personnel headache? It it may be a necessary headache at times of growth but, if the business expands and they can get off hiring the bare minimum IF ANY... They will. Who wants a trickle? More times than not, that trickle turns into nothing as business (technology, transportation, etc..) gets more efficient. To me, that reality doesn't sound like too much sharing. Who wants to share? I would love to be in a position right now to hire a couple more people. It means we have more work than we can handle.
CosmicBills Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Can you give me examples of which subsect of our society where they aren't getting their "fair" share? I'm trying to pin you down here but you are proving to be quite elusive An example please, I'd be very interested to hear who and why Not trying to be elusive or difficult. But I also wasn't the one who made the original claim that white, christain males aren't getting their fair share in this country. I was the one who said that was ridiculous.
WorldTraveller Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Forget about what RK said, I'm trying to have you answer a simple question. Generally speaking, do you believe there is a subsect of our society that isn't getting their "fair" share? If so, who and why?
Chef Jim Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 You guys aren't so stupid as to make fish for an argument this way. Obviously, America works in the same way (theoretically), but nobody NO WHERE has an economy of such wealth on a scale nearly the size of NYC. Throughout the VAST majority of our country, there's no such thing as construction workers with too much work on their hands, it's the exact opposite, and you damn well know it. Funny I'm renovating my house and my contractor is busting his ass with all the work he has....and I damn well know it!
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