Sign Usain Bolt ?

[You herd it hear last]

Nix would NEVER take a guy that's been busted smoking weed, right?

 

then again, perhaps he can help the DE's with their inside "swim" move...

[justnzane]

ya, would have been a great idea if we were playing New Orleans after Katrina.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Too soon? :-(

 

 

On your long rant, a quick correction. The 200 was one of the longest standing records when Bolt broke it, but Rudisha broke Coe's 800 record the other day, and that stood for 30 years.

 

I agree with the basis of your post, as a track coach and former D-III decathlete/hurdler/sprinter. Bolt's starts suck compared to guys that are still faster than Darrell Green or Rod Woodson two track stars amongst the fastest ever on the turf. However, his "slow" starts are still faster acceleration wise than 99.9% of NFL'ers with possible exception to CJ2k.

[mrags]

 

 

 

On your long rant, a quick correction. The 200 was one of the longest standing records when Bolt broke it, but Rudisha broke Coe's 800 record the other day, and that stood for 30 years.

 

I agree with the basis of your post, as a track coach and former D-III decathlete/hurdler/sprinter. Bolt's starts suck compared to guys that are still faster than Darrell Green or Rod Woodson two track stars amongst the fastest ever on the turf. However, his "slow" starts are still faster acceleration wise than 99.9% of NFL'ers with possible exception to CJ2k.

Great to see another Hurdler here. 110 or 400? I ran the 110 and put up a 15.3 from a standing start, no blocks (I had a big injury between indoor and outdoor) until sectionals where I would have posted a 14.6 (estimated) but was DQ. Was less than 1 length from the 2 time state champ (my buddy that I spoke of) when I spilled over the last hurdle, killing my state hopes. I also had a 12'9" PV and a 39'11" TJ.

 

I was right about the 200 though. Before Bolt broke the record in 2008, the precious record was by Michael Johnson who broke it twice, once at 19.66 in Atlanta and then 19.32, a year later, not sure where. Before that, the previous record of 19.76 was held since 1979 when it was broken by an Italian (don't remember his name). So the tine between the Italian and Michal Johnson was (at the time) one of if not the longest standing record.

 

I had to look some of the exact information up on all this but I was pretty confident in all the times and years they were posted.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

WR demands a bunch of other skills beyond just running fast. Also courage, lots of courage. I finally figured out why Football and Hockey interest me so much more than Track & Field, Tennis, or Baseball, etc. It's because athletic skill is only half of being an outstanding player, the other half is courage. To succeed, you have to risk getting hurt (sometimes hurt very badly), continuously throughout the games. Making decisions that demand that you sacrifice your body (or not). To me that makes them much more interesting, both physically, and psychologically.

Edited August 11, 2012 by Matthews' Bag

[#34fan]

Lets sign Hope Solo to kick field goals.

 

PTR

 

Only if she comes with a stripper pole.

[mrags]

WR demands a bunch of other skills beyond just running fast. Also courage, lots of courage. I finally figured out why Football and Hockey interest me so much more than Track & Field, Tennis, or Baseball, etc. It's because athletic skill is only half of being an outstanding player, the other half is courage. To succeed, you have to risk getting hurt (sometimes hurt very badly). To me that makes them much more interesting.

I do agree with you to some extent but FWIW and this is mostly guessing, there's a greater chance to die on the track than in football. Injuries are probably just the same as well. I've messed up my ankle for life and without having a doctor look at them I can fell you I will have knee problems when I get older. My knees click every time i walk up stairs. And I only ran track thoughout highschool. Roger Kindom, former WR Holder and Olympic Champion in the 110HH, I guarantee has had more knee surgeries than most football teams combined. Ever pole vaulted and had a pole snap in the middle of the vault? It doesn't feel good to head into the box upsidedown from 12ft in the air. I'm sure I've had concussions from track but nobody worried about that sort of thing back then. Injuries are injuries no matter what sport. Physical activities can lead to injuries that can change your life no matter if your running on a track or getting hit by Ray Lewis.

As far as thinking more during a football game or strategy, there's defenately that in track and field but your right, it doesn't compare. I'll give you that. Just don't think it doesn't effect track athletes at all. Next time you watch a mile run and watch a guy who's in first the entire race lose it on the last 100m. That all strategy. Incorrectly by the guy losing the lead and on the money by the guys passing him on the last straight.

 

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now. NFL football is the greatest sport in the world IMO. Just have to stick up for track a little.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

I do agree with you to some extent but FWIW and this is mostly guessing, there's a greater chance to die on the track than in football. Injuries are probably just the same as well. I've messed up my ankle for life and without having a doctor look at them I can fell you I will have knee problems when I get older. My knees click every time i walk up stairs. And I only ran track thoughout highschool. Roger Kindom, former WR Holder and Olympic Champion in the 110HH, I guarantee has had more knee surgeries than most football teams combined. Ever pole vaulted and had a pole snap in the middle of the vault? It doesn't feel good to head into the box upsidedown from 12ft in the air. I'm sure I've had concussions from track but nobody worried about that sort of thing back then. Injuries are injuries no matter what sport. Physical activities can lead to injuries that can change your life no matter if your running on a track or getting hit by Ray Lewis.

As far as thinking more during a football game or strategy, there's defenately that in track and field but your right, it doesn't compare. I'll give you that. Just don't think it doesn't effect track athletes at all. Next time you watch a mile run and watch a guy who's in first the entire race lose it on the last 100m. That all strategy. Incorrectly by the guy losing the lead and on the money by the guys passing him on the last straight.

 

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now. NFL football is the greatest sport in the world IMO. Just have to stick up for track a little.

 

I'm sure there are dangers to those sports, but I remain unconvinced that it is as dangerous, or that courage plays as large a role in the outcome of the competition (which is what I am really getting at).

[mrags]

 

 

I'm sure there are dangers to those sports, but I remain unconvinced that it is as dangerous, or that courage plays as large a role in the outcome of the competition (which is what I am really getting at).

Injuries are debatable and potentially couldnbe found as far as what's worse for your health. I really have no idea what you mean by "Courage" playing an outcome though. If you mean by playing with injuries and things like that, it happens no matter what sport your talking about. Just earlier today I watched a race in the olympics where one of the runners ran the whole race on a broken leg. I call that courage. For his team, family, and country. Not saying it doesn't happen I'm football or you might be talking about something else. Please explain.

[Just Jack]

ya, would have been a great idea if we were playing New Orleans after Katrina.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Too soon? :-(

 

We did play NO after Katrina, I was supposed to go, but it got moved to San Antonio.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

He likes soccer , supposedly he has a tryout with Manchester United.

 

“People think I am joking when I say that I would like to play for Manchester United,” British media quoted Bolt as saying on Tuesday. “But if Alex Ferguson called me up and said, ‘OK, let’s do this, come and have a trial and see if you are good enough’ it would be impossible for me to say ‘no’.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/olympics-2012/usain-bolt-kicks-manchester-united-olympics-article-1.1132222#ixzz23EQLsVg9

[BuffaloBillsMagic1]

He'd never pass NFL drug tests for perf enhancing drugs...

[Nukethis]

Yes, I'm quite sure Bolt is sitting in London right now saying he would love to leave the warmth

of Jamaica and many million$ in appearance fees to come to tropical Buffalo in the wintertime.

[PromoTheRobot]

 

 

Only if she comes with a stripper pole.

 

She is hot. I can only imagine what she and her dance partner Maks did after Dancing With The Stars.

 

PTR

[jester43]

Ok a few things that gets boiling about this. First of all I'm a former sprinter and hurdler in high school. I was good enough to get a scholarship but never did any promoting of myself for recruiting. I had friends that were similar levels to myself that recieved full scholarships to Kent. I am telling you this because I tend to keep pretty close to track news as much as possible but have lost it a little after the last Olympics. With that all said, track and field used to be considered an amature sport because money was not involved unless you were REALLY good and could demand apperance fees. At which point you could no longer recieve any scholarship money while in school and since most of these KIDS are so young, they are still in school. One of my friends who was the state champ twice recieved a full ride to Kent. After school he was "hired" by Nike to be part of thier personal team (don't remember the name of thier team) for a run at the Beijing Olympics. He didn't make.

Usain Bolt is so famous he generates sell outs no matter where he goes. Forbes says he demands anywhere from $200-350k per event but it's probably more than that honestly. Forbes has also said that he is in the range of $20m a year in apperance fees alone. That is on the same level as the Bradys, Mannings, Brees' of the NFL and he's been making that almost instantly after his Beijing run and will probably be able to demand even more now. Then you have to throw in his contract endorsments, which Forbes also said was the highest paid contract in sports history. I think something like $32m. It says 4 years, but that can't be $8m a year because some of the NFLers and NBAers currently make more than that now. Again, he will probably demand even more money than that now after this Olympics.

Usain Bolt makes much, much more doing what he's doing now than he would ever make as a NFL WR.

 

Ok. That's my part on why he would never play in the NFL. Now in to the thoughts about how fast he is vs football players. Bolt is an absolute freak of nature. For those of you that saw the breakdown of how many steps he takes and where he rates vs 100m champs of past you can clearly see how much of a difference it is. Carl Lewis ran a 3.9 second 40m. That's more than 40yards forthose of you that don't know that a yard is 3ft and a meter is 3.5ft. Carl Lewis would have wiped the floor with just about any football player to ever play the game (including the likes of Darrel Green) and He is NOWHERE NEAR being in Usain Bolts league. For those that say he has a slow start you have no clue what your saying. With cleats on, on the grass, he would blow by anyone in the league by 10 yards within the first 40yards downfield. No one would be close. 10 yards would be one hell of an open reciever and would probably make the young Randy Moss look covered. With that all said, in no way do I think he could play football. He would still have to get open, run routes, deal with coverages and cuts. It wouldn't look pretty. But for those people to claim that TJ or Brooks or anyone else for that matter could keep up with him, YOUR CRAZY!!! And for those of you counting, .02 seconds is probably the equivlant of about 5m or more. That's a lot of ground when your talking about distance from a defender, or in this case, another sprinter. It would give Bolt enough room to coast and kook at the scoreboard and fling his arms in the air with 10 yards to go and still not be close to anyone.

 

Football is completely different than track but you guys need to wake up of you don't think that Bolt is the fastest person you will probably ever see in your life and what he did will probably never be done before ever. The 200m record stood longer than any record in the track when Michael Johnson hit a 19.32 and Bolt CRUSHED that record by more than a .10 of a second. Before the 19.32 it was 19.76 to give you an idea of how much of a difference it is.

 

That's all. My love for track and the ultimate personal performance is done. Just had to give my .02.

yes. thank you. nothing funnier than watching stick and ball people (announcers mainly...have to give the casual fans like TBD brothers a pass) talk about track and field.

 

of course bolt is fast enough. assuming he could catch a ball, all you'd havve to do is send him out on a fly patternevery single play and the only way they'd cover him is to tie up 2-3 guys...playing them 20 yards of the ball. he is a complete phenomenon and the quintessential "freak of nature." one look at him should confirm that, but moreover, even a cursory knowledge of track should allow anyone to figure out a t6'5" should never be able to get up to that kind of velocity that quickly. is he doping? probably. but so is everyone else. certainly gatlin is and definitely most of the nfl.

 

so why not ply in the nfl? because he even if he could catch (and we have no idea about that of course)he'd be a fool to turn down the money he makes as the greatest sprinter in history. he's as famous as ali in his prime.

 

the guy is leading a charmed life. my only complaint is thart i hate the mugging and showboating. but then again i'm old. the world loves this guy and he's never gotta worry about getting broken to bits in the nfl.

 

He'd never pass NFL drug tests for perf enhancing drugs...

 

olympic sprinting is dirty, but NFLis pure filth when it comes to PEDs.

 

drug testing in the NFL is really just an IQ test. trust me.

 

they work way harder to catch sprinters and they are still not very good at it.

 

nfl is like the wink-wink nudge-nudge of drug testing.

[inkman]

She is hot. I can only imagine what she and her dance partner Maks did after Dancing With The Stars.

PTR

Exchange recipes?

[mrags]

yes. thank you. nothing funnier than watching stick and ball people (announcers mainly...have to give the casual fans like TBD brothers a pass) talk about track and field.

 

so why not ply in the nfl? because he even if he could catch (and we have no idea about that of course)he'd be a fool to turn down the money he makes as the greatest sprinter in history. he's as famous as ali in his prime.

 

the guy is leading a charmed life. my only complaint is thart i hate the mugging and showboating. but then again i'm old. the world loves this guy and he's never gotta worry about getting broken to bits in the nfl.

Thanks Jester. Apparently you get it. Others here just don't understand. Track and Field here in the US isn't that big a deal but around the world it is huge. I guarantee right now Bolt is probably thbmost famous man on the planet but just like soccer, people in the US don't get it. He's the greatest sprinter in the history of mankind. Does he dope? You better believe he does. I'm sure every single sprinter at the Olympics (at least the ones that didn't get destroyed) dopes. All major sports at high level dope. Every position? Of course not. I doubt Lindell is doping. I doubt Fitz is doping. They play with different skillsets. But when you have to be fast or big, yeah, you dope. The only thing they worry About is gettig away with it.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

Injuries are debatable and potentially couldnbe found as far as what's worse for your health. I really have no idea what you mean by "Courage" playing an outcome though. If you mean by playing with injuries and things like that, it happens no matter what sport your talking about. Just earlier today I watched a race in the olympics where one of the runners ran the whole race on a broken leg. I call that courage. For his team, family, and country. Not saying it doesn't happen I'm football or you might be talking about something else. Please explain.

 

I think the courage part should be obvious. An obvious one is when a receiver goes over the middle for a ball. A QB decides to take a hit to get a throw off. 2 guys go into the corner for the puck (one is gonna get smashed), a defenseman gets in front of a slapshot. I don't think that is the same thing as playing with an injury. It's more immediate. The whole sport of football is based on people beating up on each other, and in hockey everyone is constantly on guard, waiting to get hit. The teams with the best athletes don't always win, it takes guys willing to sacrifice their bodies too. And I don't think it's the same as thing enduring pain.

Edited August 11, 2012 by Matthews' Bag

[mrags]

 

 

I think the courage part should be obvious. An obvious one is when a receiver goes over the middle for a ball. A QB decides to take a hit to get a throw off. 2 guys go into the corner for the puck (one is gonna get smashed), a defenseman gets in front of a slapshot. I don't think that is the same thing as playing with an injury. It's more immediate. The whole sport of football is based on people beating up on each other, and in hockey everyone is constantly on guard, waiting to get hit. The teams with the best athletes don't always win, it takes guys willing to sacrifice their bodies too. And I don't think it's the same as thing enduring pain.

I respect the opinion. I don't disagree but I don't see it the same way as you. That's the great thing about sports. Everyone feels and experiences things differently. I can't take away the fact that football players and hockey players are very physical and beat up. But I can tell you that what Usain Bolt is doing is one of the greatest feats in the history of man.

[Geno Smith's Arm]

I respect the opinion. I don't disagree but I don't see it the same way as you. That's the great thing about sports. Everyone feels and experiences things differently. I can't take away the fact that football players and hockey players are very physical and beat up. But I can tell you that what Usain Bolt is doing is one of the greatest feats in the history of man.

 

The logic of your posts (and your spelling), is hard to follow. I guess running on a track is just as dangerous as having 250lb guys trying to take your head off. I'm done. You're blocked.

[HOUSE]

This happens after every Olympics, some wrestler can play nose tackle. lol