paintmyhouse Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Smith is a waste of a roster spot too, he will never be any better is not very good at what he does anyway.
CardinalScotts Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Looked like Thigpen knew the playbook better FWIW. WHen he had time and could make a confident throw, he delivered to TJ. VY obviously gives you the scrambling but seemed kinda' clueless about the plays/coverages. IF they could just morph the two guys into one, you may have a serviceable backup. We are screwed if Fitz goes down. Like 90% of the NFL teams
SactoBillFan Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I'll hold judgement till after the next preseason game. Young has the upper hand though but given his experience he should have done much better against the skins scrubs.
Beerball Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I'll hold judgement till after the next preseason game. Young has the upper hand though but given his experience he should have done much better against the skins scrubs. He was not good...but did you see that offensive line he was playing behind? Fer chrissakes block someone, anyone!
hondo in seattle Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 because hes a #3 qb in title only. if fitz got put on the shelf, wed bring in someone else to be VY/thigs backup. and brad would still be #3. Yep. The only ways Smith lines up at QB is (1) we're in the Wildcat, or (2) both Fitz and the #2 go out in the same game.
Mr. WEO Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Besides Tashard choice, our 3rd string running back who are you talking about? Cordero Howard who played 5 games for us before we signed Erik Pears? I think in todays NFL you dont have time to develop a QB. You have 4 years to produce max. If im a coach i want to spend all my roster spots on guys that can play and contirbute. Having a mobile guy that can fill in at WR, RB, KR, PR, PP, coverage teams, and can play QB in a pinch is much more vaulabe than a clipboard holder. Thats what coaches are for IMO The sentiment of nearly everyone in this thread is that he obviously can't "play QB in a pinch". I think you missed that part.
Doc Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Even if Thigpen knows the playbook better than VY (which makes sense), I'd still take VY.
Captain Hindsight Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 The sentiment of nearly everyone in this thread is that he obviously can't "play QB in a pinch". I think you missed that part. If we ever see Brad lined up under center ill be shocked anyway, so im not worried
mattsox Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 At least Vince can run out of trouble and do some positive things with his feet sometimes. Unless something changes drastically, VY will be our #2. VY will be #2. Bank on it!!
SactoBillFan Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 He was not good...but did you see that offensive line he was playing behind? Fer chrissakes block someone, anyone! None of them were very good I gather. Won't see the game until Sunday on NFL Network. Wasn't televised live it's on today but I'm working. As you can tell.
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted August 10, 2012 Author Posted August 10, 2012 None of them were very good I gather. Won't see the game until Sunday on NFL Network. Wasn't televised live it's on today but I'm working. As you can tell. Sacto - welcome back. And I'm working too.
SactoBillFan Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Sacto - welcome back. And I'm working too. Thanks Jay.
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I saw the game. So far, Thigpen has the advantage in that: he's tighter with Chan, and has a better grasp of the play book. On the other hand, Vince seemed to be much more of a playmaker. He has the athletic ability to get yards when most other QB's couldn't. It's the First Pre-Season Game so, no final decisions need be made now, but if Vince can sharpen up on the plays and players, based on his NFL experience, I would be inclined to put him ahead of Thigpen.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Thigpen really looks bad. It seems that he has lost confidence in himself and his arm. It's not even that he is erratic, he's just looking bad in most every practice and every appearance. I know that Chan had a lot of confidence in Thigpen as the back-up when the Bills acquired him last year. He likely gave him the benefit of the doubt not having a lot of time to work with the team last season. But with the OTAs and mini camp and now training camp he has looked awful. I don't see how Gailey can have any confidence in him anymore. I will be shocked if Thigpen makes the team even though VY doesn't look much better.
BuffalooByrd Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Lettuce be real tea, VY is the better QB. I've seen him be a top 10 QB his last year in TENN before he got injured. He's def looked different the last two years with the Eagles and now Bills. 100% its the different offensive system and I hope he can learn it although I'm not sure
ddaryl Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 At least Vince can run out of trouble and do some positive things with his feet sometimes. Unless something changes drastically, VY will be our #2. I agree... VY gets points for his ability to make things happen with his feet
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I said it in the shoutbox, might as well say it here too. Cut Thigpen today. Get Young every rep possible; there isn't any reason for him to have to give them up to Thigpen. What do we do if Young breaks his ankle during the last pre-season game? Chan: "Hey Tyler (if you are available) I just want to let you know that not much has changed in the old playbook the last 3 weeks."
Best Player Available Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 What do we do if Young breaks his ankle during the last pre-season game? Chan: "Hey Tyler (if you are available) I just want to let you know that not much has changed in the old playbook the last 3 weeks." Oh he will be available. Stockboy at Wallmart can wait.
mattsox Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I agree... VY gets points for his ability to make things happen with his feet Yeah, That aspect and his Win/loss record pretty much guarantee it... What's Tyler's W/L Record 2-6 I believe.
BuffaloBob Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 He was not good...but did you see that offensive line he was playing behind? Fer chrissakes block someone, anyone! Thank you! Vince was running for his life after 1 mississippi on most plays. Then there were so many penalties on top of that. DAvid Snow and Sam Young each had at least one hold and a false start each. Not that the line was much better for Thigpen. Frankly, I thought our number 1 o-line (missing Wood and Pears notwithstanding) was not very impressive either. Team needs to get busy!
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