JeffNixonFan Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I hope we run the wild cat in the first quart against the jets and score on a deep throw from Brad smith to a WR I hope so too, but that's reckless. The last time the Bills tried that (preseason last year I think?) it was an easy interception. Brad Smith has a terrible arm.
Captain Hindsight Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 i am apparently in the minority but i for one am a bit worried about tebow and the wc in the opener. he is admittedly not a very good traditional qb, but he was very effective running that option play of his and could put those skills to use in a new wc-like package. having a full offseason to prepare they could easily surprise an unfamiliar bills defense in just a few key plays that spells the difference in the game regarding smith, i think its pretty safe to say chan will also unveil a more sophisticated wc package. so depending on which team uses it when and how effective it is, those two players could define who comes out on top that first game Did you miss week 16 last year?
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I am not a big fan of the brad smith signing. But if the wildcat is actually put to good use, then great. Personally, I don't think the wildcat is going to work, and that goes for both the bills and the jests. The wild cat was cute for awhile, but I think teams have caught on enough to where it isn't worth the trouble of having the wildcat in the playbook. I would rather use the roster spot for something else, and if they want the wild cat so bad, freddy would be great to do it, maybe even better than smith
Kelly the Dog Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 1343793289[/url]' post='2518138']I hope so too, but that's reckless. The last time the Bills tried that (preseason last year I think?) it was an easy interception. Brad Smith has a terrible arm. Last summer Gailey said he was very impressed by the strength and accuracy of Smiths arm. It's part of the reason they didn't even bother having a developmental QB on the practice squad.Peter King was in Bills camp last year and also reported the Bills were impressed with Smiths arm. He's not going to be an NFL starting QB but he can throw. He was an excellent college QB. I can't wait to watch the Wildcat this year.
towelie Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 As far as kickoff returns go, I would rather have Terrence... McGee won't have another Kickoff Return in his life.
#34fan Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Stupid statement. But what part of REX RYAN was unclear? -Lest we forget that this is the same dumb jagoff that guaranteed a superbowl berth for his team last season. -How'd that work out 4 ya Rex? Incidentally, How may passes has anyone even SEEN from Brad Smith at the pro level? -Anyone? I haven't seen very many at all. Certainly not enough to make a critical assessment. I've seen a ton of passes from the prophet Tebow however. Mostly BAD ones. I like Tebow. He's a good guy. However no one on this board can tell me with a straight face that Brad Smith had anywhere near as many chances to establish, and Better himself as the "golden Child" did last year in Denver. Stick to toe-sucking, and Binge-eating Rex. Nobody cares what you think. Edited August 1, 2012 by #34fan
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I just want to say "F" Rex Ryan in honor of my 500th post...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Stupid statement. But what part of REX RYAN was unclear? -Lest we forget that this is the same dumb jagoff that guaranteed a superbowl berth for his team last season. -How'd that work out 4 ya Rex? Incidentally, How may passes has anyone even SEEN from Brad Smith at the pro level? -Anyone? I haven't seen very many at all. Certainly not enough to make a critical assessment. I've seen a ton of passes from the prophet Tebow however. Mostly BAD ones. I like Tebow. He's a good guy. However no one on this board can tell me with a straight face that Brad Smith had anywhere near as many chances to establish, and Better himself as the "golden Child" did last year in Denver. Stick to toe-sucking, and Binge-eating Rex. Nobody cares what you think. +1
apuszczalowski Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Isn't the rule about the #3 qb being able to step on and off the field while leaving the #1 able to go back in why we have Brad too? I think the days are slipping by that the 3rd string is actually the developmental kid. The spot can now be used to an advantage that Chan and Jets can exploit. I mean the right guy can save a roster spot cant he? One more DT or Linebacker we can keep. One less reciever. at #5 or #6 brad really is not that bad and that is what he is. I am thinking this year will have him doing what Chan originally wanted him to be doing in the big schemes of his. Hoping Gailey knows what he is doing with Brad and the Offense this year. I did not like how he finished out with his play calling. This year will tell us alot about Chan Gailey and those crazy wildcat ideas. For now i hold out reasonable hope. And harbor extreme enthusiasm. Don't waste your time trying to reason with them, it doesn't work Apparently it would be much better using the #3 spot to have a scrub (developmental) QB such as Gibran Hamdan, Shane Matthews or Levi Brown to get the clipboard holding QB his water and a towel, instead of taking advantage of a rule that would allow them to have the option to run a wildcat offence with a guy who can backup 3 different positions. Apparently his $4mil a season contract is going to prevent them from being able to re-sign Byrd and Levitre too, and the wildcat can be run effectively with just anyone. So basically what rex said, was that Tebow, his #2 QB (competing with the #1 QB in the eyes of the fans and media) can throw slightly better then the 3rd string "wildcat" QB the Bills have. I don't know if I would view that as much of an insult to Brad Smith as I would view it as an insult to Tebow.
DukeyBomb Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I'm one of the few that does not like Brad Smith at all.
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Last summer Gailey said he was very impressed by the strength and accuracy of Smiths arm. It's part of the reason they didn't even bother having a developmental QB on the practice squad.Peter King was in Bills camp last year and also reported the Bills were impressed with Smiths arm. He's not going to be an NFL starting QB but he can throw. He was an excellent college QB. I can't wait to watch the Wildcat this year. Interesting. He was so impressed with Smith's arm he had him run out of the wildcat all but twice. Smith looked horrible throwing the ball in camp--like a linebacker or TE might throw. The Jets thought the same of his arm when they had him.
Turbosrrgood Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) I don't mind keeping the Wild Cat to give defenses one more thing they have to plan for...However it's no secret that Brad Smith can't throw (which is ok, we want him to run). Yes he played QB in college, a run first QB. I bet half the players on our team at any position can throw the ball at least as well if not better than Smith. Betty White could probably throw a tighter spiral. Keep in mind, I think part of the Smith signing was just so the Jets wouldn't have him. He was definitely effective for them. Edited August 1, 2012 by Turbosrrgood
Kelly the Dog Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Interesting. He was so impressed with Smith's arm he had him run out of the wildcat all but twice. Smith looked horrible throwing the ball in camp--like a linebacker or TE might throw. The Jets thought the same of his arm when they had him. 3. It looked to me like the Bills might be preparing to use Brad Smith more than the Jets did, if that's possible. Early on, the Bills have been highly impressed with the strength and accuracy of Smith's arm. "I don't know if he'll touch the ball four times in a game or 14," Chan Gailey told me. "All I know is he's going to get it a bunch." Thanks for playing. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1189141/9/index.htm
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 And I run faster than a 4 year old toddler. I also run faster than an 80 year old granny. What's the point?
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Rex shows, yet again, his lack of class. Who calls out names like this, other than complete a$$holes? He could have easily said something like, "we feel we can execute the Wildcat better than ever now that we have Tebow," and people would understand. This guy is such a doosh. I can't wait to embarrass him and his dysfunctional team in week 1. hes been borderline unnaturally supportive of brad smith since he left. saying that their backup qb can throw better isnt really all that insulting, is it? if anything the fact that their backup qb only throws a little better is getting close to qualifying as praise of brad.
Dorkington Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I still don't understand why this is a big deal. It's basically "obvious statement is obvious". Tebow can be a starting QB in this league (as he showed us last year), even if he's not exactly prototypical. Brad Smith is a gadget player, from what I can tell. As far as if the signing is good or not, hind sight is 20/20. He showed pretty decent promise in NY, and Chan is a smart guy, so you'd think he'd be a good signing that could add a wrinkle to our game. But, it hasn't panned out that far. I'm glad we took the chance, and I look forward to getting something out of him hopefully.
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Thanks for playing. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1189141/9/index.htm Like I said. None of that ever happened--it wasn't even 4 times a game, unless you include as WR and KR (we're not talking about that, unfortunately). And King was inferring, not quoting Chan about being impressed with Smith's arm strength. It should be obvious by how little Smith was used in that capacity--even in the first has half of the season, that Chan quickly fell out of love for Smiths arm--he had a single throw. In fact, as a "QB" or whatever he was in the backfield, he had a grand total of 20 "touches" in the first half of the season. Chan was just chatting up a player, nothing wrong with that. But he saw what many of saw in camp--a guy who couldn't throw the ball well enough to be QB.
twist_to_open Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Thats an interesting post, I've been watching a lot of ESPN latley so I have not been keeping up with Tebow & Rex.....or Brees & Goodell.....or Romo!
Kelly the Dog Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 1343835686[/url]' post='2518432']Like I said. None of that ever happened--it wasn't even 4 times a game, unless you include as WR and KR (we're not talking about that, unfortunately). And King was inferring, not quoting Chan about being impressed with Smith's arm strength. It should be obvious by how little Smith was used in that capacity--even in the first has half of the season, that Chan quickly fell out of love for Smiths arm--he had a single throw. In fact, as a "QB" or whatever he was in the backfield, he had a grand total of 20 "touches" in the first half of the season. Chan was just chatting up a player, nothing wrong with that. But he saw what many of saw in camp--a guy who couldn't throw the ball well enough to be QB. Wrong. Chan said it himself last year in training camp interviews. And if you have any reading comprehension you would see that King's quote was not inferring it was definitive. Chan also clearly explained why the Wildcat wasn't used more last season early on when the season was going, even though he had it in the game plans -- mostly because the offense was clicking so consistently in the first few games he didn't want to disrupt the momentum and they hadnt had enough time in training to install everything. And this year he is on record as saying he is going to increase it. And that he doesn't think it has a place without the guy getting the snap being a legitimate threat to throw. Not to mention hiring the guy that made it famous in both college and the NFL. Not to mention that Chan is giving Smith the opportunity to play full time QB early in both OTAs and training camp because, as Chan said yesterday, he needs to know all the passing plays and two-minute drill to play QB on this team. AND the fact they didn't even bring in a developmental QB for training camp, already stating that Smith is the #3. Those are CLEAR indications he has no confidence in Smith's arm, huh?
Stl Bills Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Thanks for playing. http://sportsillustr...141/9/index.htm Yeah one sentence from Peter King isn't going to change my mind either. Again, I went to Mizzou and was there every year Brad Smith was our starter. He was a great college QB, one of the best dual threats to ever play in College but he was always a much better runner than passer. If you think of a typical Missouri Spread QB there passing stats are generally inflated (ie Chase Daniel, Blaine Gabbert) but Brad didn't ever throw for more than 2300 yards in a season, that being said the guy averaged about 1200 yards rushing and about 15 rushing TDs a year. His strengths are as a runner, he could be effective throwing out of the wildcat but he sure as hell does not have a "strong arm"....it's a really weak arm in terms of NFL QBs. The guy is also a dynamic KR specialist, not his fault the value of a quality KR has been diminished with the new kick off rule. Edited August 1, 2012 by Stl Bills
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