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Kelly nailed it. Although Erie (the city) is heavily democratic, the county sort of cancels that out. Regardless, the heavy democratic people are old time dems. These are ones that turned toward Reagan when Carter turned out to be the first Obama. Obama is in deep trouble in PA and OH. I've got friends that have been life-long dems and trade unionists. They have admitted to me that they are a dying breed and the people following them won't have it anywhere near as good. They get embarrassed if I ask them who they voted for in 2008.

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