OCinBuffalo Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 I have to accept that evil exists? Ok. Fine. No arguments there. LOL. Stop assuming I justify every behavior just b/c you think that's what anyone that isn't voting Romney does. What I don't have to accept is that deranged people can easily get weapons that shoot 100 rounds a minute. POLICE don't use these weapons b/c they're too dangerous. We don't need people buying military grade weapons. Gun purchases have dropped, so the industry needs to sell more guns and more expensive guns and expand the market to more heavy guns to a smaller group of people. I don't care about hand guns. I care about mass killing machines that can turn evil into "super-evil" very easily. I don't think we're going to stop super evil either...but we can make semi-automatic weapons and large capacity ammo mags a bad thing and that will help. And as I've said earlier...if you have a gun and a concealed permit for protection you still aren't going to be equal to crazy people with that kind of heat. It's called common sense. It has nothing to do with "gun rights." It's not "naive" to say "these guns are bad and used for 1 thing only." It's logic. And btw I have been mugged. When I was 20 some Chicago bum pulled a knife on me and wanted my cash. Since he clearly picked the wrong guy to mug, he got the $8 I had on me w/ out a fight. That has nothing to do with guns. But since you asked. I guess I looked "evil" in the face outside the red line downtown and paid it $8 to go away. lol There's no reason people need to able to legally buy guns that can easily shoot a ton of people in minutes. It's just common sense. Sensible gun regulation is not bad. Get with the program. Police DO use those weapons today, right now. It's not 1965 there liberal. They use them, because sane, not Crazy, but evil criminals can get their hands on them. The rootest of root causes for that? World Socialism. That's right: the Russians and Chinese built and sold....or in many instances dumped, for political reasons...so many AKs that most world markets are completely saturated. So what's left? Criminal markets. The Russians have to keep making money somehow, and weapons is their #1, so the flow of these weapons continues. This is reality, and if you don't stop denying her, she's going to keep kicking you in the balls. Logic is useless if it applied by the untrained, ignorant, or woefully naive. Now, are you going to admit that you know less than nothing about the international arms situation, and the effect that it WAS having on our crime, and the effect that STOPPING gun-control has had in reversing those numbers and driving crime down, and that your naive argument, is merely predicated on the elementary knowledge of the difference between a semi- and automatic weapon, and not on the ALL the facts? Since it is true that criminals can get their hands on full-auto weapons(and remember there is a never ending torrent of them coming from your socialist pals)....it is only logical that we allow citizens to at least get their hands on semi-auto ones. But that logic relies on not having a middle school mentality, and being aware of all the relevant detail on this issue. The people like me make the criminal think twice....but the people like you give the criminal the idea in the first place. Hey, why would I expect a liberal to do anything other than to get punked? I bet you're proud of allowing crime to pay...because it was only $8. That F'er comes at me with a knife? He ends up dead/subdued, or, I end up dead. I refuse to live any other way. And, $8 is nothing....what happens when it's your wife? Your kid? Then what? You just going to trade them so that the trouble for you goes away? Please, by all means, give us more of your logic on this one, and let's see you extend it to include all scenarios. (Love it when they prove once again, how simplistic and dopey-ass linear their thinking is. I wonder what kind of Christmas gifts these people buy.) The only common sense here: we need to go after the people, and either fix them, treat them, or imprison them, whatever due process dictates. We waste our time when we talk about tools, especially when we have the "socialist paradise" flooding the world market with automatic weapons that can be used by 10 year olds(one of the specs for the AK). But, if you really want to do something in gun control? Go to Russia and China and force them to stop making millions of these weapons....FOR PROFIT! Until you do, the rest of us will have to respond to the root cause problem they are creating.
IDBillzFan Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 While I'm sorry for what happened in Aurora, I'm really tired of the wall-to-wall coverage about every tiny little bit of anything. Add to this all the liberals screaming that there's just no reason for this guy to have this weaponry. If we're lucky, the shooter will tell police he got all his weapons from the Department of Justice. That would assuredly make all this media coverage stop immediately.
Adam Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 While I'm sorry for what happened in Aurora, I'm really tired of the wall-to-wall coverage about every tiny little bit of anything. Add to this all the liberals screaming that there's just no reason for this guy to have this weaponry. If we're lucky, the shooter will tell police he got all his weapons from the Department of Justice. That would assuredly make all this media coverage stop immediately. I agree, but that is how the media works. Are you saying there is something wrong with the way things work in America?
/dev/null Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 While I'm sorry for what happened in Aurora, I'm really tired of the wall-to-wall coverage about every tiny little bit of anything. Add to this all the liberals screaming that there's just no reason for this guy to have this weaponry. One thing I've noticed in the wall to wall coverage is that all of the victims were white. Could you imagine the sh-tstorm if crazy cracker had killed a person of color? Al and Jesse would be marching on Denver and nobody would care about that little 6 year old And that's another thing. Why was a 6 year old at a midnight screening of a PG13 movie?
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 One thing I've noticed in the wall to wall coverage is that all of the victims were white. Could you imagine the sh-tstorm if crazy cracker had killed a person of color? Al and Jesse would be marching on Denver and nobody would care about that little 6 year old And that's another thing. Why was a 6 year old at a midnight screening of a PG13 movie? Why was a 3 month... Yes, MONTH old there at midnight... :wallbash:
/dev/null Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Why was a 3 month... Yes, MONTH old there at midnight... :wallbash: Cuz baby momma wanted to see the movie and wasn't about to let some little kid interfere with her social life. And if the baby woke up and started crying during the movie, the other patrons would just have to deal with it Babies and cell phones, 2 things that should not be allowed in a movie theatre Edited July 23, 2012 by /dev/null
dayman Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Police DO use those weapons today, right now. It's not 1965 there liberal. They use them, because sane, not Crazy, but evil criminals can get their hands on them. The rootest of root causes for that? World Socialism. That's right: the Russians and Chinese built and sold....or in many instances dumped, for political reasons...so many AKs that most world markets are completely saturated. So what's left? Criminal markets. The Russians have to keep making money somehow, and weapons is their #1, so the flow of these weapons continues. This is reality, and if you don't stop denying her, she's going to keep kicking you in the balls. Logic is useless if it applied by the untrained, ignorant, or woefully naive. Now, are you going to admit that you know less than nothing about the international arms situation, and the effect that it WAS having on our crime, and the effect that STOPPING gun-control has had in reversing those numbers and driving crime down, and that your naive argument, is merely predicated on the elementary knowledge of the difference between a semi- and automatic weapon, and not on the ALL the facts? Since it is true that criminals can get their hands on full-auto weapons(and remember there is a never ending torrent of them coming from your socialist pals)....it is only logical that we allow citizens to at least get their hands on semi-auto ones. But that logic relies on not having a middle school mentality, and being aware of all the relevant detail on this issue. The people like me make the criminal think twice....but the people like you give the criminal the idea in the first place. Hey, why would I expect a liberal to do anything other than to get punked? I bet you're proud of allowing crime to pay...because it was only $8. That F'er comes at me with a knife? He ends up dead/subdued, or, I end up dead. I refuse to live any other way. And, $8 is nothing....what happens when it's your wife? Your kid? Then what? You just going to trade them so that the trouble for you goes away? Please, by all means, give us more of your logic on this one, and let's see you extend it to include all scenarios. (Love it when they prove once again, how simplistic and dopey-ass linear their thinking is. I wonder what kind of Christmas gifts these people buy.) The only common sense here: we need to go after the people, and either fix them, treat them, or imprison them, whatever due process dictates. We waste our time when we talk about tools, especially when we have the "socialist paradise" flooding the world market with automatic weapons that can be used by 10 year olds(one of the specs for the AK). But, if you really want to do something in gun control? Go to Russia and China and force them to stop making millions of these weapons....FOR PROFIT! Until you do, the rest of us will have to respond to the root cause problem they are creating. LOL. Stop going on retarded rants. Patrol cops in most jurisdictions don't carry them. That's just a fact. Obviously the department has them, and issues them to certain officers for use in certain situations. I'm glad you think of yourself as a semi-auto owning man under attack just trying to out arm the criminal syndicate who get limitless weapons direct from Russia (and there's nothing we can do about it lol). And I'm glad you would get into a knife fight with a retarded bum for $8. Congrats on your manhood. We'll just have disagree that there's nothing America can do to keep unreasonably deadly weapons off the streets. It's pretty obvious to me that we don't need ridiculous guns for sale at your neighborhood yahoo factory. I suppose I can understand why you feel the way you do...if I look at it from the premise that you think there are mobs of criminals ready to attack your home with automatic weapons...I don't think there are for me...and everyone I know that carries a gun isn't walking around with a semi-auto ready to get in an arms race with the Russians anyway so it won't help anyone in public. Either way I could care less about your opinion so stop posting like such a maniac. I get it. You want everyone to have the most firepower possible. It's a retarded position. But you can take it if you want. Edited July 23, 2012 by TheNewBills
Adam Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Cuz baby momma wanted to see the movie and wasn't about to let some little kid interfere with her social life. And if the baby woke up and started crying during the movie, the other patrons would just have to deal with it Babies and cell phones, 2 things that should not be allowed in a movie theatre yes. Our government needs to crack down on what can get into movies and when. Looks like somebody has tapped into their inner socialist.
truth on hold Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) A Look into the lives of the Colorado Shooting Victims Edited July 23, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack
/dev/null Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 yes. Our government needs to crack down on what can get into movies and when. Why does the government need to crack down? Theatre's should be allowed to decline service to anyone with an infant and be able to remove anyone from the theatre for using a cell phone. Looks like somebody has tapped into their inner socialist. Yeah I'd say you just did
Chef Jim Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 yes. Our government needs to crack down on what can get into movies and when. Looks like somebody has tapped into their inner socialist. Please show were he said the government needs to crack down on that?
Adam Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Why does the government need to crack down? Theatre's should be allowed to decline service to anyone with an infant and be able to remove anyone from the theatre for using a cell phone. Yeah I'd say you just did Now come on Dev. I practically put that one on a tee for you. Can't you phrase it a bit snappier than that. Show some appreciation.
DC Tom Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Yeah I'd say you just did God, that was a pathetic response.
truth on hold Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Why does the government need to crack down? Theatre's should be allowed to decline service to anyone with an infant and be able to remove anyone from the theatre for using a cell phone. yeah that's it. Clamp down and regulate everything except that which is being used for the actual killing, the guns. You idiot !
Adam Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 yeah that's it. Clamp down and regulate everything except that which is being used for the actual killing, the guns. You idiot ! While it is a discussion that needs to be had, the problem isn't the law abiding gun owners. It is the crazy people that the law won't really affect, anyways.
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Had Joe_the_6_pack been president during the civil rights era he would have single handedly ended southern racism by banning rope.
/dev/null Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 yeah that's it. Clamp down and regulate everything except that which is being used for the actual killing, the guns. You idiot ! And again, where did I say the Government should clamp down on cell phones and babies? I said theatres should have the right to decline service to people with infants/toddlers and to kick out people with cell phones. The theatres are also within their rights to decline service to anyone carrying a gun or smuggling in a pack of milk duds I really don't understand this need for Government to intervene and solve all of lifes problems
truth on hold Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) And again, where did I say the Government should clamp down on cell phones and babies? I said theatres should have the right to decline service to people with infants/toddlers and to kick out people with cell phones. The theatres are also within their rights to decline service to anyone carrying a gun or smuggling in a pack of milk duds I really don't understand this need for Government to intervene and solve all of lifes problems Right because guns can't be concealed? Security can't be taken by surprise by calculating villains with LEGAL weapons? because people with evil intent ALWAYS broadcast it in advance ? How about a name change to "Dev/Brain/Null&Void"? Edited July 23, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Next he'll end the obesity epidemic by banning forks.
Chef Jim Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Next he'll end the obesity epidemic by banning forks. Spoons. You can shovel a lot more food in your mouth with a spoon.
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