DC Tom Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 It was an analogy, dummy. If you want to attack the analogy, fine, I'll admit it could have been better. If you want to argue in favor of a a privileged, white male GOP candidate rolling into the NAACP thinking the best way to achieve votes is to "lambast" (the AP's words, not mine) the black Democrat...then you're a !@#$ing idiotTM. Just to be clear: you're not basing it on anything Romney said, but on what AP says he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 It was an analogy, dummy. If you want to attack the analogy, fine, I'll admit it could have been better. If you want to argue in favor of a a privileged, white male GOP candidate rolling into the NAACP thinking the best way to achieve votes is to "lambast" (the AP's words, not mine) the black Democrat...then you're a !@#$ing idiotTM. See LA's response above. The bigger idiots are the people who think that it's ok to talk down to black people because they don't understand any better and can't get around without the help of understanding whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Just to be clear: you're not basing it on anything Romney said, but on what AP says he said. To clarify: I don't care how he said what, the very fact that he MENTIONED Obama was stupid. See LA's response above. The bigger idiots are the people who think that it's ok to talk down to black people because they don't understand any better and can't get around without the help of understanding whites. I agree whole-heartedly. But again, it's not an either or situation. He's perfectly capable of talking about HIS policies without patronizing his audience OR trashing Obama. I never suggested he did or should have done the former. I'm starting to get the feeling that the reason colored people have a hard time in this world is because their leaders need them to be held back. Chair of NAACP for Women: Romney doesn't get black people because he talks about things like savings accounts. Regardless of your color, why would you NOT welcome someone to speak about how he can help get them out of the schitthole they are currently stuck in? Why would you ever SUGGEST that black people can't find a way to and from work? The NAACP is in dire need of some better inspiration because this woman is useless. The "NAACP for Women," it takes a special kind of organization to be both racist and sexist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'm starting to get the feeling that the reason colored people have a hard time in this world is because their leaders need them to be held back. Chair of NAACP for Women: Romney doesn't get black people because he talks about things like savings accounts. Regardless of your color, why would you NOT welcome someone to speak about how he can help get them out of the schitthole they are currently stuck in? Why would you ever SUGGEST that black people can't find a way to and from work? The NAACP is in dire need of some better inspiration because this woman is useless. Welcome to the reason the blacks are still generally an underclass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinElma Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 Welcome to the reason the blacks are still generally an underclass. Blacks are an underclass because of the cycle of single mothers having too many children out of wedlock, then those children follow in the footsteps on their mother and so on and so on. Case in point- When you have entire clusters of people having this many children with no means of support it becomes a vicious circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Blacks are an underclass because of the cycle of single mothers having too many children out of wedlock, then those children follow in the footsteps on their mother and so on and so on. Case in point- youtube.com/watch?v=01KL0_p1q-8 When you have entire clusters of people having this many children with no means of support it becomes a vicious circle. I'm more inclined to believe that blacks are an underclass because you and your klansmen actively oppress them, you racist bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Welcome to the reason the blacks are still generally an underclass. What's frustrating is that we KNOW the problems they face but the minute you bring them up, the left starts arguing either against it or for some wrong-headed option. Problem #1: family. In November of 2010, the government released a report stating that 72% of black children are born to single mothers. Most single black mothers either have to live off the state, or go to work, which means no time to make sure the children are dealing with Problem #2: Education. The latest reports are that 50% of black children drop out of school. Naturally this leads to low-paying jobs (assuming their single mother on welfare isn't teaching the children how to live off the state). Anyone with a lick of sense understands the correlation between the two, but what does the left say? The answer to education is more money. God forbid you talk about the importance of a two-parent family because then we have to start hearing about how stupid Christians waste time talking about the sanctity of marriage, and the next thing you know we're not only spending more money on education, but the smartest minds in the world are arguing about gay marriage. And to wrap it all up, you have black leaders arguing that black people can't even find their way to work and back, let alone discuss things like savings accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 What's frustrating is that we KNOW the problems they face but the minute you bring them up, the left starts arguing either against it or for some wrong-headed option. Problem #1: family. In November of 2010, the government released a report stating that 72% of black children are born to single mothers. Most single black mothers either have to live off the state, or go to work, which means no time to make sure the children are dealing with Problem #2: Education. The latest reports are that 50% of black children drop out of school. Naturally this leads to low-paying jobs (assuming their single mother on welfare isn't teaching the children how to live off the state). Anyone with a lick of sense understands the correlation between the two, but what does the left say? The answer to education is more money. God forbid you talk about the importance of a two-parent family because then we have to start hearing about how stupid Christians waste time talking about the sanctity of marriage, and the next thing you know we're not only spending more money on education, but the smartest minds in the world are arguing about gay marriage. And to wrap it all up, you have black leaders arguing that black people can't even find their way to work and back, let alone discuss things like savings accounts. Preach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 It was an analogy, dummy. If you want to attack the analogy, fine, I'll admit it could have been better. If you want to argue in favor of a a privileged, white male GOP candidate rolling into the NAACP thinking the best way to achieve votes is to "lambast" (the AP's words, not mine) the black Democrat...then you're a !@#$ing idiotTM. So you start off saying something stupid in this thread. Then come back admitting you were wrong at the same time attacking the poster that called you out. And finally changing your original argument to another argument you are pulling directly from your ass. Don't look now, but your stupidity is showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Ain't America great? Mitt was 31 when he finally heard the black people were NOT cursed. Now he is speaking to the NAACP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 So you start off saying something stupid in this thread. Then come back admitting you were wrong at the same time attacking the poster that called you out. And finally changing your original argument to another argument you are pulling directly from your ass. Don't look now, but your stupidity is showing. Really? You must be joking. I've been saying the same thing the whole time: he was !@#$ing stupid to stump the NAACP crowd with ANY message that contained the word "Obama," let alone go in there and bash the guy. If you've had difficulty following, I'll try and move slower next time. If you're just arguing for the sake of being a right-headed shill, then Godspeed, my friend. My criticism of Romney has nothing to do with him being a Republican, it's a dumbass stump strategy no matter who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 But again, it's not an either or situation. He's perfectly capable of talking about HIS policies without patronizing his audience OR trashing Obama. I never suggested he did or should have done the former. Which statement is more insulting: The current President's economic policies are failing you or Black people can't be bothered to hear about entrepreneurship or savings accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Which statement is more insulting: The current President's economic policies are failing you or Black people can't be bothered to hear about entrepreneurship or savings accounts The second one. By far. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Which statement is more insulting: The current President's economic policies are failing you or Black people can't be bothered to hear about entrepreneurship or savings accounts Apparently the first, if the president's black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 The second one. By far. What's your point? Read this thread again, sparky. That should explain why I asked that question. You're probably the only one who doesn't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Read this thread again, sparky. That should explain why I asked that question. You're probably the only one who doesn't understand. Then I've drastically mis-communicated, or else you're just plain dumb. I'll say it again: Romney should not have stumped the NAACP by going after Obama. It's a.) a terribly ineffectual way to win their (black people's) vote and b.) it's now created a publicity **** storm (headline: Romney booed by NAACP). So, he went into the ring a black-vote underdog, and he came out even worse. Either you're completely incapable of understanding this concept, or you're trying like hell to interpret what I'm saying as something I'm not. If the goal of a campaign strategy is to win votes, then this was a super ****ty one. Period. Read this thread again, sparky. That should explain why I asked that question. You're probably the only one who doesn't understand. Let me try and make a better analogy: Imagine a Pats* fan trying to convince that New England is a superior team by telling you Ryan Fitzpatrick sucks. Not only is his assertion debatable, but it's bound to make you defensive and you'll likely tune out to everything he has to say. So you leave the conversation thinking, wow, I hate the Patriots* even more now. THIS IS WHAT ROMNEY DID TO THE NAACP. Now what if he comes at you talking ONLY about Tom Brady's numbers, about his post-season success, etc. etc. As a Bills fan, even the most ardent among us would have difficulty refuting that. You might not leave that conversation a Pats* fan, but at the very least you'd walk away saying, huh, that guy made some pretty irrefutable points...THIS IS HOW ROMNEY SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THE NAACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Then I've drastically mis-communicated, or else you're just plain dumb. I'll say it again: Romney should not have stumped the NAACP by going after Obama. It's a.) a terribly ineffectual way to win their (black people's) vote and b.) it's now created a publicity **** storm (headline: Romney booed by NAACP). So, he went into the ring a black-vote underdog, and he came out even worse. Either you're completely incapable of understanding this concept, or you're trying like hell to interpret what I'm saying as something I'm not. If the goal of a campaign strategy is to win votes, then this was a super ****ty one. Period. Let me try and make a better analogy: Imagine a Pats* fan trying to convince that New England is a superior team by telling you Ryan Fitzpatrick sucks. Not only is his assertion debatable, but it's bound to make you defensive and you'll likely tune out to everything he has to say. So you leave the conversation thinking, wow, I hate the Patriots* even more now. THIS IS WHAT ROMNEY DID TO THE NAACP. Now what if he comes at you talking ONLY about Tom Brady's numbers, about his post-season success, etc. etc. As a Bills fan, even the most ardent among us would have difficulty refuting that. You might not leave that conversation a Pats* fan, but at the very least you'd walk away saying, huh, that guy made some pretty irrefutable points...THIS IS HOW ROMNEY SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THE NAACP. No, you unmitigated moron. The proper analogy to what Romney did is saying that New England is better because Tom Brady is better than Fitzpatrick. He didn't insult Obama personally. He said that his policies are failing. If you take what Romney said as an insult, then Romney doesn't want your vote. It also speaks loudly to your predilection for a president, as it appears that you would prefer a guy who would play up to a crowd to win votes, as opposed to talking frankly to the electorate about hard truths. No wonder you're perfectly happy about the state of affairs in Chicago & Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 To clarify: I don't care how he said what, the very fact that he MENTIONED Obama was stupid. He mentioned Obama?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 No wonder you're perfectly happy about the state of affairs in Chicago & Illinois. This coming from a guy who lives here... Tell me about this "state of affairs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 It was an analogy, dummy. If you want to attack the analogy, fine, I'll admit it could have been better. If you want to argue in favor of a a privileged, white male GOP candidate rolling into the NAACP thinking the best way to achieve votes is to "lambast" (the AP's words, not mine) the black Democrat...then you're a !@#$ing idiotTM. Wait, Romney is supposed to address the NAACP (which takes HUMONGOUS balls, BTW) and NOT mention the (failures of the) current president? Because if he doesn't mention Barry, his audience has NO idea who he's talking about? What's frustrating is that we KNOW the problems they face but the minute you bring them up, the left starts arguing either against it or for some wrong-headed option. Problem #1: family. In November of 2010, the government released a report stating that 72% of black children are born to single mothers. Most single black mothers either have to live off the state, or go to work, which means no time to make sure the children are dealing with Problem #2: Education. The latest reports are that 50% of black children drop out of school. Naturally this leads to low-paying jobs (assuming their single mother on welfare isn't teaching the children how to live off the state). Anyone with a lick of sense understands the correlation between the two, but what does the left say? The answer to education is more money. God forbid you talk about the importance of a two-parent family because then we have to start hearing about how stupid Christians waste time talking about the sanctity of marriage, and the next thing you know we're not only spending more money on education, but the smartest minds in the world are arguing about gay marriage. And to wrap it all up, you have black leaders arguing that black people can't even find their way to work and back, let alone discuss things like savings accounts. Bill Cosby has been talking about these problems for years. But all the black leaders do is criticze him for speaking the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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