PromoTheRobot Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) LINK Still not entirely clear how the Higgs Boson works but it's supposed to impart mass, essentially making the universe matter. PTR Edited July 2, 2012 by PromoTheRobot
The Poojer Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 call me crazy but an organization called European Organization for Nuclear Research and abbreviates it as CERN doesn't hold much credibility
Optometric Insight Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer!
DrDawkinstein Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! great insight, bucko
PromoTheRobot Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! I think someone is working on the cancer thing. PTR
CosmicBills Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! Because there's nothing beneficial to learn from studying the origin of the universe...
Optometric Insight Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 great insight, bucko Is that sarcasm or did I actually come up with something insightful?
The Avenger Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! As my HS physics teacher always used to say, "Yeah - most of the stuff we study isn't ever going to get you better toothpaste...."
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! You're right. Those physicists haven't done a damn thing for cancer treatment! Though I believe they're working on a cure for spherical chickens in a vacuum.
KD in CA Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Is that sarcasm or did I actually come up with something insightful? Not yet, keep trying.
The Big Cat Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! ?? So all scientific resources, spanning all scientific disciplines should go to...cancer?
Captain Hindsight Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! Haven't heard of Chemotherapy or radiation treatments huh?
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 call me crazy but an organization called European Organization for Nuclear Research and abbreviates it as CERN doesn't hold much credibility English snob... http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/About/Name-en.html The name is derived from the acronym for the French Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire
DC Tom Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 LINK Still not entirely clear how the Higgs Boson works but it's supposed to impart mass, essentially making the universe matter. PTR Cool. Basically...in modern physics, every physical property can be represented by a "field", that itself consists of "gauge particles" that mediate the effect of the field. Most well-known example is an electric field: two electrically charge particles feel a force from each other that's actually the recoil from a photon exchange (particle one spits out a photon, recoils in the opposite direction. Particle two receives the photon, recoils in the direction it came from. Analogous to you and me standing on skateboards, and I throw a bowling ball at you and you catch it). So the photon mediates the electromagnetic field. (And yes, my explanation isn't perfect - the "gauge" photons are "virtual", not real, and particles can recoil in all sorts of weird directions. But it's close enough, trust me.) The Higgs boson does basically the same thing for whatever field causes "mass". For a particle to have "mass", it has to exchange Higgs bosons with the "mass field" (in this case, it's easier to think of it as the field "reaching out" and grabbing whatever particle has mass. The field "reaches out" with the Higgs boson.) And again, the Higgs boson is "virtual" (i.e. doesn't really exist), until you smash **** together at high enough energies to "make it real". If you want any better an explanation than that...there's some books by Feynman that are decent (search Amazon for "Feynman QED".) But it's a really weird, counter-intuitive field...that makes perfect sense to me, which probably says a lot about why I am who I am. Haven't heard of Chemotherapy or radiation treatments huh? Medical imaging (ANY medical imaging), microsurgery...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Medical imaging (ANY medical imaging), microsurgery... The list goes on. O and my sister does cancer treatments for a living
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Well, they have gotten a piece of metal visible to the naked eye to be in two places at once (behave quantumly), so in the next 10-20 years should yield a lot of new insights. BTW, with regards to cancer, it's easy to reduce cancer levels. Reduce cancer levels by approximately 30% by eliminating smoking. Reduce cancer rates another 10 to 15% by eliminating processed foods. There you go. You don't even need to prove the God Particle to do that.
Captain Caveman Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 call me crazy but an organization called European Organization for Nuclear Research and abbreviates it as CERN doesn't hold much credibility I think it translates to CERN in European. That's a language, right?
DrDawkinstein Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Cool. Basically...in modern physics, every physical property can be represented by a "field", that itself consists of "gauge particles" that mediate the effect of the field. Most well-known example is an electric field: two electrically charge particles feel a force from each other that's actually the recoil from a photon exchange (particle one spits out a photon, recoils in the opposite direction. Particle two receives the photon, recoils in the direction it came from. Analogous to you and me standing on skateboards, and I throw a bowling ball at you and you catch it). So the photon mediates the electromagnetic field. (And yes, my explanation isn't perfect - the "gauge" photons are "virtual", not real, and particles can recoil in all sorts of weird directions. But it's close enough, trust me.) The Higgs boson does basically the same thing for whatever field causes "mass". For a particle to have "mass", it has to exchange Higgs bosons with the "mass field" (in this case, it's easier to think of it as the field "reaching out" and grabbing whatever particle has mass. The field "reaches out" with the Higgs boson.) And again, the Higgs boson is "virtual" (i.e. doesn't really exist), until you smash **** together at high enough energies to "make it real". If you want any better an explanation than that...there's some books by Feynman that are decent (search Amazon for "Feynman QED".) But it's a really weird, counter-intuitive field...that makes perfect sense to me, which probably says a lot about why I am who I am. Medical imaging (ANY medical imaging), microsurgery... My entire idea for a Science section of the board is primarily to get more posts like this out of you. Thank You.
Nick in RaChaCha Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Hey! Here's a crazy thought; instead of spending billions of dollars and wasting time on finding a dumb particle, you work on a cure for cancer! +1
Best Player Available Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Haven't heard of Chemotherapy or radiation treatments huh? Perhaps you're confused on the teens idea. For most cancers including my very own. Chemo & radiation is no CURE! In Fact far from it dude. Confused? Look it up and learn.
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