MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 There are no...bad ideas, per se! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 i think this whole new athiest movement does open secular people up to attack that we are dogmatic or that we are close minded. it doesnt make sense, but theists fall for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I didn't realize there was a "new atheist movement." As an atheist, I tend to not preach my beliefs to others, unless asked/provoked. And when I do tell people I'm atheist, they're surprised and think I'm lying, which I take as a compliment. My SIL, who is Italian/Catholic, has many devout first cousins who don't have a problem with it, outside of wanting to pray for me, for the good of my soul. Which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 24, 2012 Author Share Posted June 24, 2012 I didn't realize there was a "new atheist movement." As an atheist, I tend to not preach my beliefs to others, unless asked/provoked. And when I do tell people I'm atheist, they're surprised and think I'm lying, which I take as a compliment. My SIL, who is Italian/Catholic, has many devout first cousins who don't have a problem with it, outside of wanting to pray for me, for the good of my soul. Which is nice. Well yeah, youre right. there is no new atheist movement. its just been labeled that way for the above reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjl2nd Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I don't even know what this is about and I'm not about to watch that long ass video. I don't consider myself an atheist but I am not religious at all. Religion actually doesn't matter to me one bit. But, I don't call myself an atheist - more like an agnostic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The "Dangers" of Atheism? Don't we live in a Land of Liberty where people can believe whatever they want? I swear, everything becomes an issue when it is not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Don't we live in a Land of Liberty where people can believe whatever they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 The "Dangers" of Atheism? Don't we live in a Land of Liberty where people can believe whatever they want? I swear, everything becomes an issue when it is not.... You need to watch the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 You need to watch the video. I will watch it when I get home. Work is like Big Brother with content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) i think this whole new athiest movement does open secular people up to attack that we are dogmatic or that we are close minded. it doesnt make sense, but theists fall for it... Am I allowed to call Sam Harris a douche bag, because.....well.....he is a douche bag? Or does his atheism make him unquestionable? Edited June 25, 2012 by ieatcrayonz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Am I allowed to call Sam Harris a douche bag, because.....well.....he is a douche bag? Or does his atheism make him unquestionable? i feel the opposite. give me an example. i mean some religious propositions are pretty nutty... Edited June 25, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 i feel the opposite. give me an example. i mean some religious propositions are pretty nutty... Regardless of his beliefs/non-beliefs he discusses things in a way that talks down not only to the religious but also to his own audience. For example; in your video he explains how Mormonism is less likely than Christianity by applying mathematical principles like basic statistics. He than goes on to mock Mormonism like a very bad stand up comedian while talking down to his own audience by explaining basic laws of probability about nine times as if they are 2nd graders or Canadians and can't understand. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his arguments it is easy to see he is a douche bag. This guy is clearly using atheism as a mechanism to get laid. He could just as easily be selling Amway or the Brooklyn bridge or be selling a specific religion. He doesn't give a crap about atheism. If he was born earlier he would have been a loser pot smoking hippy douche but he wasn't, so he is an intellectual sounding atheist douche. It is probable that his schtick was refined based on his inability to bed the first chick he really dug and that somewhere deep down he is still pining over her. If she somehow reappeared in his life wearing a cross after her own conversion he'd probably convert to impress her. He is a douche lacking self confidence. Do you get it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 He's a complete dick. No atheist cares this much about atheism. Isn't that kind of the whole damn point? To most atheists, religions are kooky little hobbies and as long as they stay out of our way (and no, I don't care about a Christmas Tree in the local park), who gives a crap? Oh, and thank you for Christmas. It's an excellent holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 He's a complete dick. No atheist cares this much about atheism. Isn't that kind of the whole damn point? To most atheists, religions are kooky little hobbies and as long as they stay out of our way (and no, I don't care about a Christmas Tree in the local park), who gives a crap? Oh, and thank you for Christmas. It's an excellent holiday. Give the guy a break. He's only trying to get laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Give the guy a break. He's only trying to get laid. /thread That should end all political arguments. Edited June 25, 2012 by John Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 /thread That should end all political arguments. Unless he is a democrat - then it is an intern. unless it is a republican - then it is another man in a bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Unless he is a democrat - then it is an intern. unless it is a republican - then it is another man in a bathroom. Unless he is Barney Frank in which case it is all of the above and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Regardless of his beliefs/non-beliefs he discusses things in a way that talks down not only to the religious but also to his own audience. For example; in your video he explains how Mormonism is less likely than Christianity by applying mathematical principles like basic statistics. He than goes on to mock Mormonism like a very bad stand up comedian while talking down to his own audience by explaining basic laws of probability about nine times as if they are 2nd graders or Canadians and can't understand. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with his arguments it is easy to see he is a douche bag. This guy is clearly using atheism as a mechanism to get laid. He could just as easily be selling Amway or the Brooklyn bridge or be selling a specific religion. He doesn't give a crap about atheism. If he was born earlier he would have been a loser pot smoking hippy douche but he wasn't, so he is an intellectual sounding atheist douche. It is probable that his schtick was refined based on his inability to bed the first chick he really dug and that somewhere deep down he is still pining over her. If she somehow reappeared in his life wearing a cross after her own conversion he'd probably convert to impress her. He is a douche lacking self confidence. Do you get it now? are you really mad at him for making fun of mormonism? i mean, would you feel this way if i make fun of astrology? or racists? He's a complete dick. No atheist cares this much about atheism. Isn't that kind of the whole damn point? To most atheists, religions are kooky little hobbies and as long as they stay out of our way (and no, I don't care about a Christmas Tree in the local park), who gives a crap? Oh, and thank you for Christmas. It's an excellent holiday. john, isnt that the major problem? they dont stay out of the way? to the point where we cant teach science or people fly planes into buildings or a parent doesnt take her child to a psychiatrist and instead gets an exorcism? e.g. va tech shooting... or something down the rabbit hole of absurdity like cutting heads off because some person drew a cartoon... really? and please dont say extremism. 1- the views are extremely silly, and 2 the religiosity to this extent is not extreme in that it is rare. its a massive problem... He's a complete dick. No atheist cares this much about atheism. Isn't that kind of the whole damn point? To most atheists, religions are kooky little hobbies and as long as they stay out of our way (and no, I don't care about a Christmas Tree in the local park), who gives a crap? Oh, and thank you for Christmas. It's an excellent holiday. its not only about bad ideas dealing with the god question, but dogma in every ideology... Edited June 25, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 No one takes you seriously MDP. Don't expect me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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