/dev/null Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57449375-83/u.n-could-tax-u.s.-based-web-sites-leaked-docs-show/ So we invent the Intartubes and the world jumps on board to access our stuff. Now they want us to pay them for accessing our stuff on the network we created? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 My understanding is that Al Gore has formed a small group of concerned 'net-ites to study the matter and propose options to the UN for immediate tabling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Yes! Please make VOIP illegal and return us to the good old days of $1 per minute international phone calls. Those European and 3rd world nations are hurting for that lost revenue. Maybe the UN could tax farts next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Hehe. I just finish a long day of IT stupidity....only to see more. Apparently none of these clowns have heard of OpenPBX. Or a friggin proxy server. Or a web service. I say: go ahead, idiots. Make me a billionaire. But technological advances have eroded the ability of the receiving countries to collect the fees, and the historic shift to voice over Internet Protocol services such as Skype has all but erased the transfer payments. Some countries see the WCIT process as a long-shot opportunity to reclaim those riches. I know exactly how I'd "technologically advance" in response to this silliness, and it wouldn't merely be with OpenPBX stuff. Suddenly people would know what a "reverse-proxy" and a "micro-exchange" were. Or, actually, they wouldn't. They wouldn't care how, as long as they could pay us $2-10/mo to get around the taxes and/or get the content they can't get in their country. Hehe...if they do this, we should start PPP Communications. It would be hysterical. We could run the whole thing out of a thread. What do you say dev/null? Or, anybody else who wants to have a little fun, and make a lot of money, at Europissant expense? We will put MDP in charge of dealing with the UN...." ". They will start paying us, just to keep from having to deal with him again. All goofing aside: Sooner or later, the lesson that we "technologically advance" much faster than they can write laws, will be learned. And, even if we didn't, we can "technologically advance" around, over, etc. these laws. That's why "long-shot" is exactly right. Lawyers is how you did things....last century. They have no shot, really, at being the arbiters of how things go on the internet. Edited June 15, 2012 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hehe. I just finish a long day of IT stupidity....only to see more. Apparently none of these clowns have heard of OpenPBX. Or a friggin proxy server. Or a web service. I say: go ahead, idiots. Make me a billionaire. I know exactly how I'd "technologically advance" in response to this silliness, and it wouldn't merely be with OpenPBX stuff. Suddenly people would know what a "reverse-proxy" and a "micro-exchange" were. Or, actually, they wouldn't. They wouldn't care how, as long as they could pay us $2-10/mo to get around the taxes and/or get the content they can't get in their country. Hehe...if they do this, we should start PPP Communications. It would be hysterical. We could run the whole thing out of a thread. What do you say dev/null? Or, anybody else who wants to have a little fun, and make a lot of money, at Europissant expense? We will put MDP in charge of dealing with the UN...." ". They will start paying us, just to keep from having to deal with him again. All goofing aside: Sooner or later, the lesson that we "technologically advance" much faster than they can write laws, will be learned. And, even if we didn't, we can "technologically advance" around, over, etc. these laws. That's why "long-shot" is exactly right. Lawyers is how you did things....last century. They have no shot, really, at being the arbiters of how things go on the internet. I really do not know what you just said. But, can I still look at porn when all this happens with your system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I really do not know what you just said. But, can I still look at porn when all this happens with your system? Normal porn yes. Your "farmer alone in the barn with Bessie the cow", no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Normal porn yes. Your "farmer alone in the barn with Bessie the cow", no. He said "look at". Not "film". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I really do not know what you just said. But, can I still look at porn when all this happens with your system? Of course you don't. That's why you pay us $2-10/mo. Of course you can. That's why you pay us $2-10/mo. But, only if government is dumb enough to try to stop you from getting the porn you get today, and create a way for me to make big $$$ giving to you in spite of their idiocy. See? The marketing for this is simple. The technology required to do it? That's only moderately less simple. Good luck trying to stop me from taking your money on a server in the Cayman Islands, routing your content from a server in Russia, and delivering it to you via proxies from all over the world...when all of this can be replaced with new servers in other places, on a daily, or hourly if necessary, basis. (And, that's not even how I'd do it ) Now, what exactly can a lawyer do about that? See? Laws and taxes aren't the solution here. It would take them a year, and only with business intelligence people, not lawyers, to even figure out how/who was doing it. That's when I start a new Costa Rican company and do it all over again. Look, what we have here is butthurt buggy whip makers. Nobody felt sorry for buggy whip makers. We bought cars and moved on. Today, people "buy" Skype and have moved on. You would get your porn from me and move on. You don't care how butthurt the Post Office is about email, you won't care how butthurt these old European phone companies are about Skype, and it sounds like you really won't care how you get porn, as long as you get it. Look at FiOS. That's Verizon, not being butthurt, and approaching IT change properly: not with lawyers, but with more, and superior, IT. They aren't piddling around trying to force people to buy their buggy whip DSL/dial up by paying off politicians to pass laws to that effect. Instead, they have stopped selling buggy whips, and started selling high-margin sports cars. Cable companies can still sell their cheaper station wagons, and the market will keep both sides honest. We don't require lawyers, politicians or regulations to be involved in any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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