Overseas Bills Fan Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 for me, it's a tie between TOP and off/def 3rd down conversion because they go hand in hand keeping a drive alive and killing an opponent's drive. the bills have been dreadful at this. in this 12 years of garbage, i've noticed the bills can't seem to convert third and short and can't seem to stop third and long. maybe it comes down to a receiver and a pass rush, but for some reason i always though it was more than that. any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Pressure on QB: sacks, hurries, knock downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 TOP is a good one. Turnovers, Penalties, and Sacks as well. I think Turnovers is a big one. Look at what those 4 INTs did for us against NE and Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I think 3rd down conversion % is quite important. If you can stop them on third down, as well as be efficient on your own third downs then there's a great chance for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 What makes a team excel at 3rd down conversions on offense or stops on defense ? After all it's just an outcome like the score. Need to understand why and how before you can improve on your #'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 for me, it's a tie between TOP and off/def 3rd down conversion because they go hand in hand keeping a drive alive and killing an opponent's drive. the bills have been dreadful at this. in this 12 years of garbage, i've noticed the bills can't seem to convert third and short and can't seem to stop third and long. maybe it comes down to a receiver and a pass rush, but for some reason i always though it was more than that. any thoughts? 3rd and long has been killing the Bills for years now. It's at the point when its 3rd and forever, I can call the play the other team will make to convert. Usually its the corners giving to much room and letting the WR make the catch. Or worse no one covering the WR and its an easy 1st down. Pathetic to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 What makes a team excel at 3rd down conversions on offense or stops on defense ? After all it's just an outcome like the score. Need to understand why and how before you can improve on your #'s Getting that 3rd down stop on D is all about Pass Rush. Which is why we have been so bad at it, as Fan In San Diego points out. Hopefully, with the re-vamped DL, that will be changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optometric Insight Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Average starting field position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Rushing yards per game is always a good stat and turnovers. Edited June 5, 2012 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'll go with a tie between turnover differential and 3rd down conversion % (both offense and defense). 3rd down % leads directly to TOP, which others have mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Backup QB's Wunderlic score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'll go with a tie between turnover differential and 3rd down conversion % (both offense and defense). 3rd down % leads directly to TOP, which others have mentioned. those would be mine too - perhaps simplify the latter to differential as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'll go with a tie between turnover differential and 3rd down conversion % (both offense and defense). 3rd down % leads directly to TOP, which others have mentioned. I, too, agree with these. Turnover differential was easily proven last year in the first 3rd of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Average yards per attempt against the run. If your opponent can't run, they are forced to become one-dimmensional and, more often than not, you got 'em when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 IR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Turnovers, not even a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 IR +1 you can't help the club when you're in the tub.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 IR Great choice. As for the TOP, it's a new NFL. The Jags, one of the worst offenses, only held the ball 27 seconds less than the best offense, GB. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byteam?group=Offense&cat=Total&conference=NFL&year=season_2011&sort=530&timeframe= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 number of losses. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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