stinky finger Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Yeah, for some reason (probably my typical April/May delusional fog), I find myself more excited about Brooks than any other draft pick. Doesn't make sense and I can't explain it. I just think he might turn into something special. Either way, I'm loving the DB competition and depth this year. Surely SOMEONE has to turn out to be good out of this very presentable collection of potential (Gilmore, Williams, Brooks, Rogers, maybe McKelvin sees the light or is moved to the slot where he can keep things in front of him, etc.). Then again, I fall for this shite every year (and happily - how else would I entertain myself?). Whenever I see '19-0' at the bottom of The Senator's posts, I always think, "I guess it's possible . . ." Yep. As much as i like this draft, It's Brooks that I'm most intrigued by. I have a feeling, as do you, that this kid will be something special. Letes hope, anyway.....
TheBrownBear Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 You know what the best part is? The Bills have EARNED these articles. We are now actually doing something instead of TALKING about it. We now have one of the top 2 DL's (#1 if you ask me) in the entire NFL. Our secondary was good and will now be great with the pass rush. LB's are playing in their natural spots and assuming natural roles for them. I see 11 wins this year baring injury. I'm a natural pessimist, but I have to say that ON PAPER our defensive line and secondary are SICK! Based on those two units alone I expect us to be a top-10 defense. Not crazy about the linebackers though. None of those guys cover much ground.
BillsBytheBay Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Kirwan Interesting he suggests this was the Bills' plan all along, but they knew better than to try to install the 4-3 last season before getting the horses in the stable. Not sure I totally buy that (doesn't explain George Edwards' presence), but there's no question the talent needed an upgrade. Also, Kirwan has McGee penciled in as a starter; I think we all pretty much agree Williams is the frontrunner for that spot. Regardless...more positive press concerning the Bills' offseason! I know many are "worried" by this, but let's face it, when a lot of national media guys are saying your team did good things, it's probably at least a decent indication the arrow is pointing up. I believe McGee get the start until he gets hurt. I still think he us our best proven cover corner, when he can play.
Dorkington Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 We haven't earned anything. Winning the off-season is stupid. I want some damned victories!
dave mcbride Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Kirwan Interesting he suggests this was the Bills' plan all along, but they knew better than to try to install the 4-3 last season before getting the horses in the stable. Not sure I totally buy that (doesn't explain George Edwards' presence), but there's no question the talent needed an upgrade. Also, Kirwan has McGee penciled in as a starter; I think we all pretty much agree Williams is the frontrunner for that spot. Regardless...more positive press concerning the Bills' offseason! I know many are "worried" by this, but let's face it, when a lot of national media guys are saying your team did good things, it's probably at least a decent indication the arrow is pointing up. good piece.
CSBill Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 I think people are writing off McGee too quickly for this year. IF he's healthy (a big if, granted), I don't think there is any way they start a rookie and a 2nd year guy over him. I think McGee will start and Gilmore, Williams, and Leodis will be battling for the other outside spot and the nickel spot. If I had to make a prediction, I see McGee and Gilmore starting and Leodis covering the slot with Williams getting time in dime and getting himself ready for the inevitable shift that will happen when McGee and Leodis leave/fade/retire, etc. I see this as a transition year in the d backfield. I do think you're right that next year the starting DBs will be Gilmore and Williams (unless Brooks or someone else shows some mad skills). I agree, when healthy, I think he still a top level corner . . . lets hope, a good problem to have
hondo in seattle Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 While I love the pre-season accolades it worries me that people's expectations are going to be sky high. And when we don't get 20 sacks and 70 points a game, or god forbid lose a game, people are going to lose it. PTR PTR, no worries.... I'll be happy when we score 40 points a game this season. I'm a natural pessimist, but I have to say that ON PAPER our defensive line and secondary are SICK! Based on those two units alone I expect us to be a top-10 defense. Not crazy about the linebackers though. None of those guys cover much ground. Since LB isn't our best position, I guess it's great we only have field 3 of them this year rather than four. I have a feeling that these 3 will look better under Wanny's leadership than they looked last year under Edwards. Having some hefty, talented guys in front of them will help.
Bruce Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 I agree with his points, but I'm happy staying under the radar. What I don't think people are putting together, is that similar to the Jim Kelly- led K-Gun days, jumping on opponents early and often with TD's forces the other team into passing situations to catch up. Now that we should have a deadly pass rush, and our Offense should be improved with a #2 receiver, Chandler back at TE, the O Line jelling now, and Fred coming back, Gailey should have us putting points up in furious fashion. Allowing our improved pass rush to feast on more QB drop backs and hurries, forces those same QB's to throw earlier than they both want to and are ready to, and look out for the flood of INT's!! Put plainly: if injuries don't hurt us, and if the pass rush is as improved as I think that it is, I would not see it unrealistic for a 12-4 record and a home playoff game or 2. GO BILLS! I'm a natural pessimist, but I have to say that ON PAPER our defensive line and secondary are SICK! Based on those two units alone I expect us to be a top-10 defense. Not crazy about the linebackers though. None of those guys cover much ground. ARE YOU CRAZY!??!??!? Did you even watch Nick Barnett play last year? The guy is everywhere. Heck, if I'm not mistaken he singlehandedly led the defense against the Giants and a couple of others. I think he killed a few Dolphins, too. Go back and look at the tape, dude. Barnett is a beast!
Tcali Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Too many positive things are being said about the Bills this offseason. Far too much good karma and high hopes. Quickly! Rian Lindell! Stab someone! stab someone?? what is this The Girl Scouts??--Stab someone in whorehouse w a dirty needle.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 I have always liked Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan's Sirius radio show in the afternoons. They try to teach their listeners about football and are critical of every team. they are very objective. I really like Kirwan's "Take Your Eye Off the Ball" book. Something in it for every level of football fan.
BRAWNDO Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Yep. As much as i like this draft, It's Brooks that I'm most intrigued by. I have a feeling, as do you, that this kid will be something special. Letes hope, anyway..... I agree with this, Brooks starts on most other teams in SEC and based on his production with minimal playing time probably improves to late first/second round draft choice.
KOKBILLS Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 I think people are writing off McGee too quickly for this year. IF he's healthy (a big if, granted), I don't think there is any way they start a rookie and a 2nd year guy over him. I think McGee will start and Gilmore, Williams, and Leodis will be battling for the other outside spot and the nickel spot. If I had to make a prediction, I see McGee and Gilmore starting and Leodis covering the slot with Williams getting time in dime and getting himself ready for the inevitable shift that will happen when McGee and Leodis leave/fade/retire, etc. I see this as a transition year in the d backfield. I do think you're right that next year the starting DBs will be Gilmore and Williams (unless Brooks or someone else shows some mad skills). IF McGee makes the final cut I'm sure The Bills will use him carefully to try and keep him healthy...McGee should figure to be an important mentor for these young kids...But he's having HUGE problems staying healthy...And for a Vet CB that's tough.. Williams is absolutely the favorite to start opposite Gilmore...In fact I think it would be more likely to see Gilmore eased in than Williams...I think a lot of Folks are looking at Williams early on last year...A Rookie with zero Mini Camps, zero off season, at one of the hardest positions in the NFL, and forgetting the fact that he may have been our best Defender by the end of the year...I think with an entire off season, and with the experience he got last year, Williams will start at CB from day #1... I think The Bills will be hoping to have Gilmore and Williams start...McGee and Brooks will be the 1st off the bench, with Rogers as the 5th CB, and McLovin bringing up the rear...Oh...And look for The Bills to try like hell to unload McLovin on any taker...Though I doubt anyone will bite... IMHO of course...
3rdand12 Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) In regard to McGee starting.. i think this is tough. If he is healthy he does play very good football very good. I hope we can agree on that. So does Buffalo do? try to keep him healthy and let him play #3 and limiting reps ? Or should we go ahead and use him up while the kids get their feet wet. Would you guys consider that Terrence starts with Williams as Gilmore was kinda drafted to cover the TE even though i think he will become a complete backer in time? Maybe we just rotate the whole gang depending on matchups. We have 3 guys who can run stop in Williams T McGee and Happy, i am guessing. We have some guys that can cover speed.. McKelvin and R. Brooks. But on the other side is that the our 4-3 will be zoned and not man so much. Well it looks like a good problem to have as they say addition: KOK damnit you type faster than me man! Edited May 22, 2012 by 3rdand12
KOKBILLS Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 KOK damnit you type faster than me man! Well THAT is a first my friend...
3rdand12 Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 A win is a win any way you get it. even against old and decrepit, senile and infirmed me! Chalk one up mister
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Then again, I fall for this shite every year (and happily - how else would I entertain myself?). Whenever I see '19-0' at the bottom of The Senator's posts, I always think, "I guess it's possible . . ." Ask yourself honestly: Does this year's shyt smell the same as the shyt of years past? Too many positive things are being said about the Bills this offseason. Far too much good karma and high hopes. Promo's gonna get nervous… oh. Here he is. While I love the pre-season accolades it worries me that people's expectations are going to be sky high. And when we don't get 20 sacks and 70 points a game, or god forbid lose a game, people are going to lose it. PTR Don't worry about other people's expectations. Just enjoy that same feeling we had back in 1987 when we could clearly see what was happening.
Zulu Cthulhu Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Doesn't really matter that much who the named starting two corners are. They'll be playing with at least 3 on the field most of the time anyway.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 Well thought out article. I just hope Chix is as clever as they are making them out to be.
Chilly Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 I have always liked Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan's Sirius radio show in the afternoons. They try to teach their listeners about football and are critical of every team. they are very objective. +1... love them.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 23, 2012 Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) I agree with this, Brooks starts on most other teams in SEC and based on his production with minimal playing time probably improves to late first/second round draft choice. Since they drafted him and i have been able to do a little research on the guy, i think you are right. He woul dhave been a starter on any other team, including Bama. He could very well turn out to be a steal. He has all the potential. If he can get coached up some we will have three young guys under contract for atleast 3 more years at DB. That coupled with our Dline, and the LBs will look a lot better. Brooks looks to make ahuge splash on ST from day one. having said all that, if healthy i want McGee starting the first game of the year. He is the only proven good CB on this team right now. The guy just seems to not have the body to withstand the beating anymore. Edited May 23, 2012 by atlbillsfan1975
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