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[DaveinElma]

http://wreg.com/2012/05/16/tn-man-fathers-30-kids-but-cant-support-any/

 

Desmond Hatchett is pleading with the state of Tennessee to help him pay for child support.

 

With 30 kids, who could afford to pay child support?

 

Yes, 30 children by 11 different “baby mamas.”

 

Desmond explained how it all happened, well you know what we mean, “I had four kids in the same year. Twice.”

 

The children range in age from toddlers to 14 years old.

 

He was last in court in 2009, at which time he had 21 children.

 

That means he’s had at least 9 more children in the last 3 years.

 

Hatchett only has a minimum wage job, which means some of the moms receive as little as… $1.49 a month.

[DC Tom]

I'm guessing...he's black, Dave?

[DaveinElma]

I'm guessing...he's black, Dave?

 

 

I dont care what color he is. You're missing the picture-I bet that all between all 30 of kids kids there is probably a half million dollars of subsidies annually.

 

 

We could have been to Mars but we just had to fund the entitlement society.

[DC Tom]

I dont care what color he is.

 

 

And yet, one can guess - successfully - the subject under discussion is black, simply based on the fact that you're posting about it.

[DaveinElma]

And yet, one can guess - successfully - the subject under discussion is black, simply based on the fact that you're posting about it.

 

Not my fault he's black. This is on the front page of Yahoo right now. They must be racist.

[B-Man]

Well..............I'll tell you what Desmond,

 

we can help financially with supporting these poor children,

 

but you have to do something for us first................................................................................................

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the knife.

 

 

 

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[MARCELL DAREUS POWER]

distraction people. most of your money is being stolen by our banking system and corporate state. these stories are used to stir up racism and distract people. its a classic divide and conquer technique

[DC Tom]

distraction people. most of your money is being stolen by our banking system and corporate state. these stories are used to stir up racism and distract people. its a classic divide and conquer technique

 

Holy Christ.

 

Don't forget to remind us that the banks are owned by the Zionists and Bilderburgers.

[meazza]

Holy Christ.

 

Don't forget to remind us that the banks are owned by the Zionists and Bilderburgers.

 

A 12 year old girl told him

[GG]

Holy Christ.

 

Don't forget to remind us that the banks are owned by the Zionists and Bilderburgers.

Is that a new beer label?

 

Why do you fall for Hogboy all the time?

[Reed83HOF]

distraction people. most of your money is being stolen by our banking system and corporate state. these stories are used to stir up racism and distract people. its a classic divide and conquer technique

 

I come to the depths here once in a while to read the threads, but have never posted here until today; but damn man have some common sense. It doesn't matter if you are a hardcore teabagger or any other right wing flavor or socialist, communist or leftist. The system overall bleeds money. But back to the topic of this thread...

 

At some point there needs to be cutoffs and limits to the amount of safety net/help people get; you can't fix stupid. Well in this case you can - dude needs to get fixed. At some point there has to be personal responsibility/accountability and a set of consequences for an individual like this...

 

Sometimes I agree with comments/points that you have posted in other threads, but then you come up with something like this...WOW

[MARCELL DAREUS POWER]

Holy Christ.

 

Don't forget to remind us that the banks are owned by the Zionists and Bilderburgers.

 

 

i never said that.... you do realize we have a massive public/private debt...

 

I come to the depths here once in a while to read the threads, but have never posted here until today; but damn man have some common sense. It doesn't matter if you are a hardcore teabagger or any other right wing flavor or socialist, communist or leftist. The system overall bleeds money. But back to the topic of this thread...

 

At some point there needs to be cutoffs and limits to the amount of safety net/help people get; you can't fix stupid. Well in this case you can - dude needs to get fixed. At some point there has to be personal responsibility/accountability and a set of consequences for an individual like this...

 

Sometimes I agree with comments/points that you have posted in other threads, but then you come up with something like this...WOW

 

 

i agree, this is very horrible, and at the same time you just cant let kids starve. and at the same time you cant force him to get snipped.

 

again, the world is not perfect. ill stand by what i said, this is classic divide and conquer. money is being stolen in the trillions and this story pops up. the game is rigged and this takes focus off that.

[unbillievable]

That's 30 more future votes for the democrats

[Reed83HOF]

i never said that.... you do realize we have a massive public/private debt...

 

i agree, this is very horrible, and at the same time you just cant let kids starve. and at the same time you cant force him to get snipped.

 

again, the world is not perfect. ill stand by what i said, this is classic divide and conquer. money is being stolen in the trillions and this story pops up. the game is rigged and this takes focus off that.

 

I am fairly liberal and believe that social programs(retirement system; true healthcare reform like every other major country in the world; primary, secondary and tertiary education; unemployment and welfare, etc) are a basic right for citizens. I want my tax money to towards keeping our country great. Capitalism is better than communism, but it does have it's faults. The downfalls of capitalism are being seen right now (inequality in wealth distribution, irrational behavior - bubbles, monopolies that cause high prices and low wages, immobility or difficulty in moving from an unprofitable sector to a new one) and in order for this country to maintain it's place in history and to be looked at and admired, we do have to protect ourselves from its pitfalls. That is really just common sense.

On top of it yeah we do other stupid things as well.

 

That being said, there still has to be cutoffs/limits/lines in the sand or whatever you want to call them otherwise they can be leached off of; there has to be some form of fiscal responsibility - it can't go on forever and ever and ever. This is an example of a dickhead who is irresponsible and looking for us to make up for his idiocy; you can't fix stupid. We can help them, but he still needs to be accountable and take responsibility for his actions...

 

Should his children be punished? - NO. What about the 11 females who slept with him? - possibly. Should he be held responsibile for his actions - Hell yes! If the father isn't able to provide enough support - he shouldn't be let off the hook. I am too lazy to look for it, but I am sure there are numbers that have been crunched that say it takes x dollars to raise a kid at y age to the age of 18. The kids will have the basic access to the healthcare and educational systems; the remaining money needed to provide basic necessities for these kids will be provided for by the parents & welfare system. The parents should undergo annual means tests with the figures being adjusted accordingly. The amount that the country has to pay for assisting in raising the kids is what it the parents owe; for all I care you can use the current system in determining the amount that a father has to pay for child support and it is further split between daddy and mommy. There wages are garnished for however many years it takes to repay the money back to the system.

[MARCELL DAREUS POWER]

I am fairly liberal and believe that social programs(retirement system; true healthcare reform like every other major country in the world; primary, secondary and tertiary education; unemployment and welfare, etc) are a basic right for citizens. I want my tax money to towards keeping our country great. Capitalism is better than communism, but it does have it's faults. The downfalls of capitalism are being seen right now (inequality in wealth distribution, irrational behavior - bubbles, monopolies that cause high prices and low wages, immobility or difficulty in moving from an unprofitable sector to a new one) and in order for this country to maintain it's place in history and to be looked at and admired, we do have to protect ourselves from its pitfalls. That is really just common sense.

On top of it yeah we do other stupid things as well.

 

That being said, there still has to be cutoffs/limits/lines in the sand or whatever you want to call them otherwise they can be leached off of; there has to be some form of fiscal responsibility - it can't go on forever and ever and ever. This is an example of a dickhead who is irresponsible and looking for us to make up for his idiocy; you can't fix stupid. We can help them, but he still needs to be accountable and take responsibility for his actions...

 

Should his children be punished? - NO. What about the 11 females who slept with him? - possibly. Should he be held responsibile for his actions - Hell yes! If the father isn't able to provide enough support - he shouldn't be let off the hook. I am too lazy to look for it, but I am sure there are numbers that have been crunched that say it takes x dollars to raise a kid at y age to the age of 18. The kids will have the basic access to the healthcare and educational systems; the remaining money needed to provide basic necessities for these kids will be provided for by the parents & welfare system. The parents should undergo annual means tests with the figures being adjusted accordingly. The amount that the country has to pay for assisting in raising the kids is what it the parents owe; for all I care you can use the current system in determining the amount that a father has to pay for child support and it is further split between daddy and mommy. There wages are garnished for however many years it takes to repay the money back to the system.

 

 

for this remote extreme example. yes, his/her wages need to be garnished. that seems fair. how much, idk... of course you would need some type of cut-off, which would be highly controversial. ie, soft population control. many religions and family still have lots of kids. i remember i liked this mormon girl. they had 7 kids. but they could take care of them. so its a red herring. like i said, how much do we let class determine this? 3 kids? 2 kids? 6 kids? idk... and sometimes in population ethics, it gets really complicated. in this extreme example, this guy has to pay something in monetary value. but again, this wont stop him from having 100 more kids. this is why this is a distraction.

 

its equivalent to looking at a kid wasting his dinner, and then ignoring enron or a bank robber.

 

this also instigates underlying racism, a classic divide and conquer technique. its a distraction...

to be fair, and to show im not some drone liberal, im against mandatory child support for men. as long as women have the real choice to choose, you cant force a man to support a child. i would make an exception in this extreme example of 30 kids. obviously hes doing something wrong...lol

Edited May 20, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER

[Rob's House]

for this remote extreme example. yes, his/her wages need to be garnished. that seems fair. how much, idk... of course you would need some type of cut-off, which would be highly controversial. ie, soft population control. many religions and family still have lots of kids. i remember i liked this mormon girl. they had 7 kids. but they could take care of them. so its a red herring. like i said, how much do we let class determine this? 3 kids? 2 kids? 6 kids? idk... and sometimes in population ethics, it gets really complicated. in this extreme example, this guy has to pay something in monetary value. but again, this wont stop him from having 100 more kids. this is why this is a distraction.

 

its equivalent to looking at a kid wasting his dinner, and then ignoring enron or a bank robber.

 

this also instigates underlying racism, a classic divide and conquer technique. its a distraction...

to be fair, and to show im not some drone liberal, im against mandatory child support for men. as long as women have the real choice to choose, you cant force a man to support a child. i would make an exception in this extreme example of 30 kids. obviously hes doing something wrong...lol

The classic "we shouldn't worry about any problem if there's a bigger problem" argument. The problem is one guy not paying for his kids isn't a significant drag on society. But a million guys not taking care of their [often multiple] kids makes Enron look like a small blip on the national radar.

[MARCELL DAREUS POWER]

The classic "we shouldn't worry about any problem if there's a bigger problem" argument. The problem is one guy not paying for his kids isn't a significant drag on society. But a million guys not taking care of their [often multiple] kids makes Enron look like a small blip on the national radar.

 

 

1- a million guys not taking care of your kids is not happening.

2- even if there was, i dont know how you solve this. again, birth control and abortion are available and its up to the woman if she wants a child, not the man. i dont believe its ethical to force child support for men given this circumstance.

3- the problem is incredibly small and again a distraction.

4- its not just enron, trillions are stolen and ironically is a major reason why children dont have proper care, because their parents cant find jobs that support a family.

 

this is why ann romney and the repub stance on this recent issue was a joke. ann romney says its great to be a stay at home mom and there is no shame in that occupation,(all but endorsing the idea that stay at home moms are good and necessary.) unfortunately most people and families cant afford to do that. creating a catch 22 for the romney campaign. " were for stay at home moms", " but only for rich people"....

 

Edited May 21, 2012 by MARCELL DAREUS POWER

[3rdnlng]

I'm not responding to the previous poster. I'm sending out a warning. This is funny as hell that I'm siding with JA twice in one day. Anyone that acknowledges this guy by debating with him/she/it doesn't just have MDP's hook down their throat but has been already scaled and is about to get filleted.

[MARCELL DAREUS POWER]

:sick: :sick:

I'm not responding to the previous poster. I'm sending out a warning. This is funny as hell that I'm siding with JA twice in one day. Anyone that acknowledges this guy by debating with him/she/it doesn't just have MDP's hook down their throat but has been already scaled and is about to get filleted.

 

 

 

:sick: :sick:

[Rob's House]

1- a million guys not taking care of your kids is not happening. -

 

You're right. I've learned the myth of widespread illegitimacy & deadbeat dads is a sham concocted at a Bilderberg meeting, endorsed by Enron, Haliburton, & Bain Capital, then dutifully propagated by Fox News to distract the public from their exploitation of women & minorities to keep them down.

2- even if there was, i dont know how you solve this. again, birth control and abortion are available and its up to the woman if she wants a child, not the man. i dont believe its ethical to force child support for men given this circumstance.-

This is true as well. Men are powerless to pull out & the Republicans banned birth control. Therefore, the best solution is to allow people to procreate indiscriminately in a consequence free environment & then coerce the responsible segment of the population to foot the bill.

 

3- the problem is incredibly small and again a distraction. -We covered this in 1, but I suppose stating it twice makes it look as though we've made additional points.

 

4- its not just enron, trillions are stolen and ironically is a major reason why children dont have proper care, because their parents cant find jobs that support a family. - Here's how this works; Millions of responsible adults acquire marketable job skills but never find gainful employment ( these people outnumber deadbeat dads 10 fold. I've met none of the former & many of the latter, but I'm sure I'm right) because the corporations are protected by the government ( who needs more power) and they sit there in their big corporation buildings, & are all corporationey, & make money.

this is why ann romney and the repub stance on this recent issue was a joke. ann romney says its great to be a stay at home mom and there is no shame in that occupation,(all but endorsing the idea that stay at home moms are good and necessary.) unfortunately most people and families cant afford to do that. creating a catch 22 for the romney campaign. " were for stay at home moms", " but only for rich people"....

 

- Fu€k Ann Romney. If that €unt's going to extol the virtues of raising your own kids she & her fascist husband need to make that available for everybody.

Edited May 21, 2012 by Rob's House