jjamie12 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) What the hell is it you would have done Mitt? What are you going to do now. Well, for starters, he would approve the Pipeline that would create 10-20 thousand jobs immediately. You know, just like it says in the ad. Edited May 18, 2012 by jjamie12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 PPP ... where that is a great advertisement. PPP ... where people have the nerve to act annoyed b/c I make a few posts about how I think Romney is weak (when the entire board is about Obama being retarded) Tom...there's no sizzle being sold here that I can spot. Well, for starters, he would approve the Pipeline that would create 10-20 thousand jobs immediately. You know, just like it says in the ad. We're talking about the Romney campaign trying to get out there a proactively define him before others do it for him. And he comes w/ pipeline...and basically nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 PPP ... where that is a great advertisement. PPP ... where people have the nerve to act annoyed b/c I make a few posts about how I think Romney is weak (when the entire board is about Obama being retarded) Tom...there's no sizzle being sold here that I can spot. We're talking about the Romney campaign trying to get out there a proactively define him before others do it for him. And he comes w/ pipeline...and basically nothing else. You do realize that you are heading towards DinDom don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjamie12 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 PPP ... where that is a great advertisement. PPP ... where people have the nerve to act annoyed b/c I make a few posts about how I think Romney is weak (when the entire board is about Obama being retarded) Tom...there's no sizzle being sold here that I can spot. We're talking about the Romney campaign trying to get out there a proactively define him before others do it for him. And he comes w/ pipeline...and basically nothing else. I'm confused because in your last post you, literally, asked for "What would you have done, Mitt? What are you going to do now?". It seems like the Mitt Romney ad is exactly what you were asking for because, you know, it sort of directly answers the question that you're asking. Now you want to play politcal games, which is fine -- but just admit that, literally, no matter what President Obama does or says nor what Governor Romney has ever done or will say will make you think that any ad he ever runs will be a good one. Really, it's OK, just admit it then we can stop pretending and save ourselves carpal tunnel syndrome arguing about (shocker!) Progressives or liberals or Democrats not liking Mitt Romney ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 high-income tax breaks? Can you point out where he said that. I think I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 then we can stop pretending and save ourselves carpal tunnel syndrome arguing about (shocker!) Progressives or liberals or Democrats not liking Mitt Romney ads. You forgot about their obvious concern that Gov. Romney is such a weak candidate........... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 You do realize that you are heading towards DinDom don't you? I read this three times. DinDom....DimDom....DinDom. I didn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 I'm confused because in your last post you, literally, asked for "What would you have done, Mitt? What are you going to do now?". It seems like the Mitt Romney ad is exactly what you were asking for because, you know, it sort of directly answers the question that you're asking. Now you want to play politcal games, which is fine -- but just admit that, literally, no matter what President Obama does or says nor what Governor Romney has ever done or will say will make you think that any ad he ever runs will be a good one. Really, it's OK, just admit it then we can stop pretending and save ourselves carpal tunnel syndrome arguing about (shocker!) Progressives or liberals or Democrats not liking Mitt Romney ads. No way I will admit that. Mitt Romney absolutely could run an ad that I would say was a good ad. He has to run it though. He could either be really effective selling sizzle or he could give some steak (to put it in Tom's terms). My opinion is that if this is what he leads with ... then it doesn't seem like he's really going to make a strong case for anything other than "I'm not Obama." To me, this is a really safe ad and I'm not sure he's going to get out there and do anything other than play it safe...(which btw may be the right thing to do who knows...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 No way I will admit that. Mitt Romney absolutely could run an ad that I would say was a good ad. He has to run it though. He could either be really effective selling sizzle or he could give some steak (to put it in Tom's terms). My opinion is that if this is what he leads with ... then it doesn't seem like he's really going to make a strong case for anything other than "I'm not Obama." To me, this is a really safe ad and I'm not sure he's going to get out there and do anything other than play it safe...(which btw may be the right thing to do who knows...) So you pick your candidate based on a TV ad? Sound bite society for sure. We're dooooooooooomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Tom...there's no sizzle being sold here that I can spot. You're not the target audience. You're basically a vegan wondering why carnivores like steak. And it's no more substantial than "Hope and Change". It's a political ad. Edited May 18, 2012 by DC Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 So you pick your candidate based on a TV ad? Sound bite society for sure. We're dooooooooooomed. We're talking pure politics here Jim...strategy....I'm criticizing Romney's ad. You're not the target audience. You're basically a vegan wondering why carnivores like steak. And it's no more substantial than "Hope and Change". It's a political ad. Hope and change wasn't meant to be substantial though. Hope and change worked in '08. It won't work in '12 haha...but it worked then. Grade A sizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hope and change wasn't meant to be substantial though. Hope and change worked in '08. It won't work in '12 haha...but it worked then. Grade A sizzle. Exactly my point. And I bet it would work again. But I have an extremely low opinion of the electorate, considering they base their decisions on sizzle to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Exactly my point. And I bet it would work again. But I have an extremely low opinion of the electorate, considering they base their decisions on sizzle to begin with. LOL...sizzle has got to change...hope and change def. will work again some day but not this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 LOL...sizzle has got to change...hope and change def. will work again some day but not this day. Then you really need to meet my lunatic sister-in-law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 We're talking pure politics here Jim...strategy....I'm criticizing Romney's ad. Hope and change wasn't meant to be substantial though. Hope and change worked in '08. It won't work in '12 haha...but it worked then. Grade A sizzle. I would go for some real hope and change this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 So you pick your candidate based on a TV ad? Sound bite society for sure. We're dooooooooooomed. You say it's a safe ad. No **** you go with safe in May an bring out the big guns for the debates. I expect the ratings for those be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 You say it's a safe ad. No **** you go with safe in May an bring out the big guns for the debates. I expect the ratings for those be huge. Haha ya, at least we can only hope they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Pipeline (a no-brainer even the Democrats agree with), "tax cuts and reforms for job creators," and dismantling of Obamacare. Look. We get it. You're a progressive and this makes no sense to you. It's just an ad that lets Romney play on offense instead of chasing the embarrassing Bain narrative the Obama camp is counting on. We look forward to the Obama ads talking about what he'll do if he's re-elected and has more "flexibility." Basically, analogous to a "P-K4" opening in chess. Not as exciting as a Caro-Kann, bland but solid opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Basically, analogous to a "P-K4" opening in chess. Not as exciting as a Caro-Kann, bland but solid opening. Assuming it was solid, I still wouldn't have gone "bland but solid" to define myself initially if I was Romney. Edited May 18, 2012 by TheNewBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Romney's playing this perfectly. You start off bland and progressively ramp things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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