hondo in seattle Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I'm not a betting man. But I'm tempted to make an exception this year when I hear the Vegas odds-makers have the Bills over/under at 6.5. Apparently, there's not a lot of optimism for the Bills outside of Buffalo.
NewEra Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 1337310774[/url]' post='2469514']I'm not a betting man. But I'm tempted to make an exception this year when I hear the Vegas odds-makers have the Bills over/under at 6.5. Apparently, there's not a lot of optimism for the Bills outside of Buffalo. What's the +/-? At 6.5 I bet it's like -200 or more. That's just a ridiculous line. If its -150 or under I'm gonna hammer it for sure.
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Seems to good to be true. Rest of country must have low expectations for buffalo. The oddsmakers try to get action on both sides of the line
Rocky Landing Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I'm not a betting man. But I'm tempted to make an exception this year when I hear the Vegas odds-makers have the Bills over/under at 6.5. Apparently, there's not a lot of optimism for the Bills outside of Buffalo. Well, I am a betting man. Actually, what you are referring to is the point spread. The "over/under" is the bet on combined points. I believe the Las Vegas Hilton has the Jets by 5.5 and the over/under at 42.5. I'm hoping to be in Vegas in the next couple weeks and I plan on placing a decent sized bet on the Bills. (I currently reside in Los Angeles) I bet on the games every week (usually with the aide of a bookie, since I'm out-of-state), but I almost never bet on the Bills. But, occasionally, I make an exception. It is curious, though. Believe it or not, the Bills were favored over the Jets in week 9 last season by 2.5 points.
Shouldaplayedflutie99 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 It's for -110 or -120 no matter which side you pick...the over under last year was 5.5...that said, I am goin to bet the over, but hope I don't need to sweat it till the end of the year like last year. Go bills! Well, I am a betting man. Actually, what you are referring to is the point spread. The "over/under" is the bet on combined points. I believe the Las Vegas Hilton has the Jets by 5.5 and the over/under at 42.5. I'm hoping to be in Vegas in the next couple weeks and I plan on placing a decent sized bet on the Bills. (I currently reside in Los Angeles) I bet on the games every week (usually with the aide of a bookie, since I'm out-of-state), but I almost never bet on the Bills. But, occasionally, I make an exception. It is curious, though. Believe it or not, the Bills were favored over the Jets in week 9 last season by 2.5 points. I believe the post is on bills games won/lost, not point spread.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Well, I am a betting man. Actually, what you are referring to is the point spread. The "over/under" is the bet on combined points. I believe the Las Vegas Hilton has the Jets by 5.5 and the over/under at 42.5. I'm hoping to be in Vegas in the next couple weeks and I plan on placing a decent sized bet on the Bills. (I currently reside in Los Angeles) I bet on the games every week (usually with the aide of a bookie, since I'm out-of-state), but I almost never bet on the Bills. But, occasionally, I make an exception. It is curious, though. Believe it or not, the Bills were favored over the Jets in week 9 last season by 2.5 points. Yeah I'm guessing that the topic refers to the over/under on wins this year.
NewEra Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 1337315672[/url]' post='2469578']Yeah I'm guessing that the topic refers to the over/under on wins this year. That's what I assumed as well. We are +5.5 vs the jets in most books atm
Rocky Landing Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Yeah I'm guessing that the topic refers to the over/under on wins this year. I'm sorry to disagree with you guys, but the odds posted in Vegas are for the week one games in which the Jets are favored by 5.5 and the over/under is 42.5. Here's a handy Wikipedia link that explains the over/under pretty well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-under The only future odds that I know of beyond week one are for AFC, NFC, and Super Bowl championships. Currently, btw, the Bills are 50/1 for the SB. While I'm at it, here's another link that carries most of the Vegas sports book odds. You can expect to see some very different numbers once the preseason starts. http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las%2Dvegas/
papazoid Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Only two teams, the Colts and Texans, are without win totals. Below are the full odds, courtesy of 5Dimes. * * * ARIZONA CARDINALS Over 7.5 (-130) Under 7.5 (-110) ATLANTA FALCONS Over 8.5 (-175) Under 8.5 (+135) BALTIMORE RAVENS Over 10.5 (+115) Under 10.5 (-155) BUFFALO BILLS Over 6.5 (-140) Under 6.5 (+100) CAROLINA PANTHERS Over 8.5 (+100) Under 8.5 (-140) CHICAGO BEARS Over 8.5 (-165) Under 8.5 (+125) CINCINNATI BENGALS Over 7.5 (-165) Under 7.5 (+125) CLEVELAND BROWNS Over 6.5 (-130) Under 6.5 (-110) DALLAS COWBOYS Over 8.5 (-160) Under 8.5 (+120) DENVER BRONCOS Over 7.5 (+125) Under 7.5 (-165) DETROIT LIONS Over 8.5 (-165) Under 8.5 (+125) GREEN BAY PACKERS Over 12.5 (+160) Under 12.5 (-210) JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS Over 6.5 (-120) Under 6.5 (-120) KANSAS CITY CHIEFS Over 8.5 (-160) Under 8.5 (+120) MIAMI DOLPHINS Over 8.5 (-195) Under 8.5 (+155) MINNESOTA VIKINGS Over 7.5 (-120) Under 7.5 (-120) NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS Over 11.5 (-150) Under 11.5 (+110) NEW ORLEANS SAINTS Over 11.5 (-120) Under 11.5 (-120) NEW YORK GIANTS Over 10.5 (+100) Under 10.5 (-140) NEW YORK JETS Over 9.5 (+120) Under 9.5 (-160) OAKLAND RAIDERS Over 7.5 (-120) Under 7.5 (-120) PHILADELPHIA EAGLES Over 9.5 (-160) Under 9.5 (+120) PITTSBURGH STEELERS Over 9.5 (-230) Under 9.5 (+170) SAN DIEGO CHARGERS Over 9.5 (-125) Under 9.5 (-115) SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS Over 10.5 (+120) Under 10.5 (-160) SEATTLE SEAHAWKS Over 6.5 (-195) Under 6.5 (+155) ST. LOUIS RAMS Over 6.5 (-130) Under 6.5 (-110) TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS Over 6.5 (-160) Under 6.5 (+120) TENNESSEE TITANS Over 8.5 (+110) Under 8.5 (-150) WASHINGTON REDSKINS Over 6.5 (-125) Under 6.5 (-115)
vincec Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Seems likely that the Bills will do better that 6 wins. I'd put a quarter on this.
Wayne Cubed Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) BUFFALO BILLS Over 6.5 (-140) Under 6.5 (+100) Correct me if I'm wrong here but to place a bet on the Bills winning more than 6.5 games you'd have to put down $140 and you'd only get back $100. But if they are under 6.5 games its $100 for $100. So you'd basically be betting more money(if you think they'll win more than 6.5), but getting less than double your money back. Doesn't that mean they think we'll win more than 6.5 games which is why your return isn't as great? Edited May 18, 2012 by Wayne Cubed
eball Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 What's the +/-? At 6.5 I bet it's like -200 or more. That's just a ridiculous line. If its -150 or under I'm gonna hammer it for sure. Hey man, you're out there. Can you look into this for me? Might have to ask you to -- er -- "assist" with a little wager.
plenzmd1 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong here but to place a bet on the Bills winning more than 6.5 games you'd have to put down $140 and you'd only get back $100. But if they are under 6.5 games its $100 for $100. So you'd basically be betting more money(if you think they'll win more than 6.5), but getting less than double your money back. Doesn't that mean they think we'll win more than 6.5 games which is why your return isn't as great? That's correct, and that number is the number that will move , not the 6.5. so let's say ton of money all starts to come in on the Bills, if the books don't want to take a side they will move that number to say - 175. That is what NewEra was referring to in his original post.
stevestojan Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Wow, I've never seen more people who clearly know nothing about a topic (sports gambling) giving their advice/thoughts on a topic.
plenzmd1 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Wow, I've never seen more people who clearly know nothing about a topic (sports gambling) giving their advice/thoughts on a topic. Explain
papazoid Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong here but to place a bet on the Bills winning more than 6.5 games you'd have to put down $140 and you'd only get back $100. But if they are under 6.5 games its $100 for $100. So you'd basically be betting more money(if you think they'll win more than 6.5), but getting less than double your money back. Doesn't that mean they think we'll win more than 6.5 games which is why your return isn't as great? if you put down $140 on +6.5 wins and buffalo wins 7 or more games, you win $100 AND you get your $140 back for a total of $240. if you put down $100 on -6.5 wins and buffalo wins 6 or less games, you win $100 AND you get your $100 back for a total of $200.
Wayne Cubed Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) if you put down $140 on +6.5 wins and buffalo wins 7 or more games, you win $100 AND you get your $140 back for a total of $240. if you put down $100 on -6.5 wins and buffalo wins 6 or less games, you win $100 AND you get your $100 back for a total of $200. So, if someone put down $700 on the Bills to win 7 or more games, and the Bills do, they would only get back $500 for a total of $1200. If they put down $700 on the Bills to lose 6 or less, and the Bills do, they would get $700 and $700 back for a total of $1400. The point I ask is, the original poster said Vegas isn't favoring the Bills(maybe because they set the game total at 6.5). But the pay out is bigger for putting the same amount of money down on them losing less than 6. Doesn't that mean Vegas thinks the Bills will win 7+, therefore they are in fact favoring the Bills to do well? Edited May 18, 2012 by Wayne Cubed
metzelaars_lives Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I'm not a betting man. But I'm tempted to make an exception this year when I hear the Vegas odds-makers have the Bills over/under at 6.5. Apparently, there's not a lot of optimism for the Bills outside of Buffalo. At first this seemed crazy and upon further review, it's INSANE! First of all, "Vegas Odds?" What the hell does that mean? There are thousands of casinos and online sportsbooks, each with their own odds. This is just one of them and it is a joke. Broncos at 7.5? Chiefs at 8.5?? Dolphins at 8.5???? Come on. These lines don't mean a thing. I think the consensus on the Bills over/under win total will be closer to 7.5/8. That being said, I would love to throw some money on the Dolphins finishing with less than 9 wins and the Broncos finishing with more than 7, are you freaking kidding me?
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